Specifically, someone using a "computer pseudonym" (no big surprise) posted images of the G4 PowerMac, and of Apple's new oval-shape optical mouse, in advance of their public introduction. Cturley2 wrote in message <20000802163353.27650.00002912@ng-fi1.aol.com>... with a bit of research on the matter - I've been informed that >this relates to the Mac and NOT to the Apple II.