Re: Apple II Reference Manual ("Red Book")

[pausch@saafNOSPAM.se (Paul Schlyter)]

In article <20000420001557.10259.00001455@ng-ci1.aol.com>,
Regnirps <regnirps@aol.com> wrote:
> pausch@saafNOSPAM.se  (Paul Schlyter) wrote:
> 
>> Liberals aren't "left wing" -- to be "left wing" you must be a
>> communist, or at least a radical social democrat.  Liberals are
>> the "middle wing".
> 
> This is also what most American journalists believe but they are over 90%
> Democrat. The simple truth is that Ronald Regan had the greatest majority and
> greatest number of votes in American history and this defines the middle.
 
FYI: there are other countries than the US.  Yes I know many americans finds
it hard to comprehend this, but nevertheless most people of the world
lives outside the USA.
 
> Classical Liberalism would be the Republicans before 1950 when they were
> invaded by the "neo-cons" or first wave of religious conservatives.
 
And what about the situation on the 200 *other* countries of the world?
 
>> Hitler wasn't a leftist.....  
> 
> National Socialists not Leftists?
 
Nope!  They imporisoned socialists and communists, and collaborated with
other right-wing dictatorships, such as Mussolini's Italy and Franco's Spain.
 
> Single party?
 
Yes -- they certainly weren't democratic.
 
> Privately held means of production but government control over quotas and
> prices? Party officials placed in businesses to monitor production?
> Registering and confiscation of weapons to suppress dissent?
 
Yep -- that happens in all dictatorships, right-wing as well as left-wing.
 
>>>>:-) ....you're still afraid of communism I see.....
>  
>>> When was the last time you went to Cuba or Ethiopia?
> 
>> Do you seriously fear those countries?  BTW you forgot North Korea.....
> 
> You said afraid of communism, not countries. I was giving examples of where you
> could go to see the results of Communism.
 
I never argued about these results -- but are you seriously believing this
will happen in your country too?
 
> I believe in evil and in evil ideas. I don't care if Marx and Engels
> are in the library, but there should be a skull and cross bones stamp
> on the book.
 
I think you need to learn some history here.  Why do you think Marx
and Engels philosophy spawned such a large political movement?  The
answer is quite obvious: because their critiscism of the Capitalism
of 150 years ago was right on the spot!  Marx and Engels didn't
really spawn Communism -- Capitalism and its accompanied slavery did!
 
> Do you think the Cold War or a hot one can't happen again?
 
We already have a new Cold War -- this time between the western
world and the islamic world....
 
> I think any sane free person should fear Communism.
 
To be consistent, you should then fear Capitalism just as much.  What
did the americans do to the native american population?  What did you
do to the black people in Africa some 200 years ago?  I'm sorry, but
Communists aren't the only ones who have blood on their hands.
 
And you should fear Christianity and Islam just as much too -- they too
have blood on their hands.  Remember the crusades and the jihads?
 
Basically, one should then fear humans in general, because most of human
history is filled with blood.
 
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