Re: Sniff. Sniff. What's that SMELL?

["Ernest" <ernestls@home.com>]

Yawn. Am I the only one who's really tired of this thread, or more
specifically, the constant bickering.

I've lost track of who I agree or disagree with on whatever the original
argument started over. What is the argument anyway?

This bickering... it's all just white noise to me now, like the snow on a TV
but I can't turn the channel because every thread quickly becomes a match to
see who can give the snappiest insult. Someone asks a question -it doesn't
matter what it's about, and the chatter starts up. Blah. Blah. Blah.

I used to really enjoy coming to this newsgroup everyday. People like
Rubywand and Tom indirectly encouraged me to go out and by my own Apple II,
and many, many people here have helped me learn how to use it but now, I
check in here every few days to see if there's anything interesting going
on, and it seems like all I see is white noise. TV snow. Chatter.

Maybe you think that you're helping someone (?) by arguing all the time but
you really aren't. You insulting someone else doesn't help ANYBODY! Can you
stop for a second and think about that? Can you think about that QUIETLY?

Isn't this group supposed to be about helping each other out? I think that's
why most people come here, to help or be helped. That's why I'm here, and I
used to really enjoy it but now, I don't feel it anymore. I can be bored in
lots of other places, and if I want slapstick, I can watch the Three Stooges
on TV. Why don't you just "doink" each other in the eyes and be done with it
already?

Any thread that has a hint of opinion (or not in some cases) degrades into a
pathetic attempt at slapstick, with name calling and everything. Geez, would
you folks listen to yourselves for a second? In case you can't figure it out
for yourselves, I'll tell you. It ain't to pretty, and I'm really tired of
being caught in your petty battles. By "caught" I mean opening a seemingly
innocent thread and bang, suddenly it's a fight -YOUR fight, all over again.
You open your mouths and out comes the verbal shit. It oozes out. Blah.
Blah. Blah. Brown and stinking. Blah... and there it is, laying there
stinking this place up.

Regardless of what you think, this isn't your forum for getting out your
aggression. What is it you always say? Read the FAQ? Well why don't you read
the fucking FAQ, and get a clue. Isn't there a newsgroup for you people?
Like "alt.italktohearmyownvoice.whiney.whycantishutthefuckup" or maybe
"alt.everyonebutmesucks.ineedalife.whydoesntanyonelistentome." I think I saw
those groups out there somewhere, and I'm sure that they would "LOVE" to
hear your noise and smell your stink. Or at least you could wash out your
mouths so the rest of us don't have to smell the shit your spewing into this
group?

While I think that most of the other folks here would agree with my
assessment of your never ending argument, I know that you honestly may not
be able to help it. It just comes out, right, like diarrhea (frequent and
loose?) So I have a sincere, and heartfelt suggestion. If you can't stop
yourselves, then at least take it out of the group. It isn't that much more
work to write (smear) your opinions into personal emails to each other,
instead of making all of the rest of us listen to it. I don't want to listen
to it anymore. This is your fight, not mine. Can you understand that? Can
you show the rest of us a little common courtesy, and take it outside, so
the rest of us can get back to having fun? Is that to much to ask of you? I
think that it's a reasonable thing to ask of you. You don't have to stop
insulting each other but you could do it to each other, instead of to us.
The ironic part of it is that you would probably stop without an audience to
impress with your verbal prowess. None of you care what the other thinks,
and there wouldn't be a point without an audience to view it. I'm really,
really tired of your personal little fight. Please. PLEASE! Make it stop
before my eyes are stained forever brown.

Ernest




Jeff Blakeney wrote in message <38f638a4.577562231@news>...
>On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:50:20 +1000, Willie Yeo <willie@ssc.qld.edu.au>
>wrote:
>
>>    In my stand, DiversiTune is not a 'reclassified' software as such.
>>'reclassified software' by definition is a change of status from
'commercial'
>>to 'shareware/freeware' or 'public domain'. DiversiTune does not fall into
that
>>category.
>
>If that is the only criteria for reclassification then the fact that
>DiversiTune was not changed from being a commercial product to
>something else means it remains commercial and you shouldn't be
>distributing it.
>
>However, something did change which makes it possible for others to
>distribute it even though it remains a commercial product.  You need
>to take that into account.  One way you can think about it is that
>there are three things involved:  the product's status, the
>copyright's status and the distribution methods allowed.  All these
>things make up the classification of the software in my mind.
>
>The product's status is kind of a general description of the
>classification of the product (ie. commercial, shareware, freeware,
>public domain, et al).  The copyright status is whether the product is
>still copyrighted or not.  The distribution methods are how the
>product can legally be distributed (commercially, on user group disks,
>from ftp or web sites, et al).
>
>If a product is reclassified then one or more of these is changed.  If
>the allowable distribution methods have changed but the product status
>and copyright status don't, this would still be a reclassification the
>way I think about it.
>
>In the case of DiversiTune it appears that the product's status and
>copyright status remained the same but the distribution methods
>changed.
>
>In the case of Animasia, the product's status changed from commercial
>to shareware, the copyright status remained the same and the
>distribution methods were changed.
>
>In the case of the Beagle Compiler, the product's status was changed
>from commercial to freeware, the copyright status remained the same
>and the distribution methods were changed.
>
>In the case of ProSel, the product's status was changed from
>commercial to public domain, the copyright was removed and the
>distributions restrictions were removed.
>
>I'm not sure if others agree with this concept or not but it seems to
>me that it covers everything pretty well.
>
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