Ok. I've seen some users do some pretty starnge things on their computers. One of the hazards of an OS without restrictive access. As for HFS. I primarily use my HFS volume for local archive storage. I tend to keep copies of them on the PC also. For my use, I haven't had any problems. If the guys on Delphi say it's bad, it must be so....... -- Phoenyx Have you fed your Apple II today?