Re: HELP HELP HELP ADT122

[Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>]

Ernest writes ...
> 
> Yes, I checked the syntax also, and it is correct.
> 
> As an experiment, I tried doing it the somewhat old fashioned way -I semi
> hand typed it.
> 
> If you save a copy of the adt.dmp file as a .txt file, and then open it up,
> you can see the information that the file has, and how it's entered into the
> apple II
> 
> On the apple, type the IN#2, and [control-A] 6B, just like the directions
> say. Then, assuming that you are able to communicate with your apple via, in
> my case, HyperTerminal, you can type the first couple of lines, by hand, at
> the HT prompt. Don't worry if it doesn't type out on the HT screen -just
> watch the apple screen to see that the info is transferring. Type these
> lines first:
> 
> 3D0G
> NEW
> CALL-151
> 803:4C 0E 08 05 00
> 
> You should see these characters displayed on your apple II. Hit the enter
> key at the end of each line, and the 0 are zeros. After you type these
> commands, you should see the apple prompt change from the ] symbol to the *
> symbol. This means that you are ready to copy the rest of the information in
> ADT.TXT file.
> 
> To do this, go back to your ADT.TXT file and select everything after the
> 803:4C line. These are the lines that begin with the : character. Do not
> select the very last line, which you will hand type after the selected
> information is sent to the apple II.
> 
> After you have selected all of the lines that begin with :, right click on
> the selected lines and chose COPY from the menu that pops up. Then, click
> once on the title bar of the HT window so that it pops back to the front of
> your screen. Do not click in the main body of HT, as this seems to confuse
> the transfer somehow.
> 
> Now, RIGHT click on the main body of the HT window, and chose the PASTE TO
> HOST option. This will begin transferring the text from the ADT.TXT file to
> your apple. It takes a few minutes, and you should see the text displayed on
> your apple II.
> 
> After that finishes, hit the enter key again, and hand type the last line of
> the ADT.TXT file, and hit the enter key again.
> 
> You should see the light on your Apple II floppy drive light up, as the
> apple saves the information to the disk.
>

     You could do the transfer this way; but, it should not be necessary. From
the start of the adt.dmp transfer, the file is 'typing in' stuff to your Apple
II. So, for instance, the "CALL-151" really does put the Apple II in the
monitor.


 
> After that, you have to do the same basic thing with the ADTCFG.BAS file.
> Save a copy of the ADTCFG.BAS file as ADTCFG.TXT, type the first few lines
> at the HT prompt, and then select, copy, and paste to host the rest of the
> .txt file, except for the last line, which you type by hand again. Hit the
> enter key, again, and you should see the program saved to your floppy disk
> on the Apple.

     Actually, it is not necessary to transfer ADTCFG.BAS. This program just
allows you to set ADT's startup defaults. ADT allows changing the same parms
within the program. If you want ADTCFG.BAS, it is easier to get ADT going and
then transfer the ADT .dsk (adt122.dsk) disk image file to diskette. ADTCFG.BAS
is included on the disk.


> 
> Now, type BRUN ADT on the Apple, and the ADT program should load up. This
> worked like a charm for me, even if it is a bit tedious.

     Interesting but, as you say, pretty tedious.

 
> This method is tedious, and I'm not exactly sure of why it's such a pain to
> transfer the .dmp and .bas file from Windows 95/98 HyperTerminal but at
> least this method does work, finally. Also, the Readme.txt file of the ADT
> program says that these two files need to be sent using ASCII mode but HT
> doesn't give you that option.

     I guess the directions could be a bit clearer. The Readme.txt file says:

>>
Then, on the PC, start a comm program, set it for 300 baud N81, and
ASCII-upload (not Xmodem or any other protocol but a straight text
upload) the file "adt.dmp" to the Apple. (Example: Using HyperTerm
Under Windows 95, you would Send Text.)
<<


> When you go to send a file to the Apple, the
> only options that HT gives you is Xmodem, Zmodem, Kermit, etc.. but no
> simple ASCII transfer option. I tried monkeying around with it but it
> doesn't seem to want to work for me, on either a NULL or STRAIGHT-thru
> cable, in Terminal or Communication config on the SS card.

LOL! Reminds me of the hassle I went through with HyperTerm trying to find a
way to transfer multiple files via Z-modem. (Finally, I think it was Mitch
Spector or Jeff Blakeney who explained the trick.)

     To transfer Text with Hyperterm you click on "Transfer" and select "Send
Text File". In order for this to work well sending files to the Apple II you
must first have defined a connection setup (in Files, select New Connection).

     Once you have defined the connection setup, you save it under some name
like "A2at300.ht". From then on, whenever you start HyperTerm, you can click
Files and select Open and pick your connection setup from a list which will
include A2at300.ht and any other setups you have created.

Note: By the way, the Files menu relates to these connection setups, not to
stuff you want to send. You pick stuff to send (or a directory to receive to)
when you click Transfer and make a choice like Send File or Send Text File.
Once you choose a Transfer activity, you will be able to Browse folders.

Here is an example of a good 300 baud HyperTerm setup (entries to make after
selecting New Connection" under Files):

1- "Phone Number" page
Connect using= Direct to Com 1

Click on Configure and set
  Bits per second= 300
  Data bits= 8
  Parity= None
  Stop bits= 1
  Flow control= None**
 (You should not need to change any Advanced settings)
  Click OK

Click on the "Settings" page tab

2- "Settings" page
Terminal keys is selected
Emulation= TTY
Backscroll buffer lines= 500

(You should not need to change Terminal Setup)
Click on ASCII Setup
  Send line ends with line feeds is _not_ selected
  Echo typed characters locally is not selected (probably does not matter)
  Line delay= 400 milliseconds (roughly)
  Character delay= 0 milliseconds

  Append line feeds ... is _not_ selected
  Force incoming data to 7-bit ASCII is _not_ selected
  Wrap lines that exceed terminal width is selected (might as well)
  Click OK
 
Click OK again to finish. Then, click Files and do a Save As to save the new
setup.

**Note: Normally, for high speed transfers, Flow control would be set to
"Hardware". In the case of the 300 baud transfer of adt.dmp, you are just
sending with no flow control 'feedback' from the Apple II.

 
> There are probably better terminal programs to use, in MSDOS mode
> preferably, but I haven't been able to find a simple DOS based terminal
> program that allows ASCII transfers directly to the PC Com port -they all
> want to use a modem.

     As mentioned above, HyperTerm will allow you to send "direct to COM 1".
Admittedly, discovering this is not especially easy.

> 
> Does anyone know of a MSDOS based terminal program that will allow transfers
> via a Com port -not via a modem?
 ....

     If a telecom program insists that you specify a modem, pick "generic
modem" or some similar non-fancy setting. For NULL modem transfers, each
computer 'thinks' the other is a modem.



Rubywand