Re: Desktop Icons

[Rich Hare <rhare@mich.com>]

ALL RIGHT!
Here is the definitive answer:
It is clearly something with a disk written to by Win95 MSDOS.
If I format a 1.44 disk with Prodos, the finder will show the icon.
If I format a 1.44 disk with MSDOS from WINDOWS 95, the finder will show
the blank disk.
BUT
If I format a 1.44 disk with MSDOS and write ANY FILE, even one with a
short file name (AE.shk), the finder will not show the icon.

OK, Now I know "what's in, and what's out".

Thanks to all.



Rich Hare wrote:
> 
> Thank you!
> I will test this theory a couple of ways and report back to the group:
> 1) I will format a MSDOS 1.44 disk and put one short filename on it,
> 2) I will format a 1.44 disk with ProDOS and try it in the drive.
> 
> Supertimer wrote:
> >
> > Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Rich Hare writes ...
> > >>
> > >> I've got a new small problem with my IIGS.
> > >> I have a Bluedisk card which has worked very well for years, and still
> > >> does.  I changed a few things around last month, and now have a new
> > >> problem.  Previously, when I put a MSDOS disk in the drive, and pushed
> > >> "Control" to poll the drive, the disk would appear on the desktop and I
> > >> could "drag and drop" to copy from the icon.  (The MSDOS FST is read
> > >> only)
> > >>
> > >> Now, the icon doesn't appear on the desktop.  The Watson utilities (and
> > >> others as well, such as Utilityworks, find the disk just fine; it just
> > >> doesn't appear on the desktop.
> > >
> > >     You can always try scrapping the file named "Desktop" in the ICONS/
> > folder (on
> > >the boot partition and/or other partitions).  Desktop gets changed from time
> > to
> > >time by programs which want to install their icon(s). Sometimes the result is
> > to
> > >corrupt Desktop.
> > >
> > >     A corrupted Desktop file is a fairly common problem for System 6 users
> > who
> > >routinely add new applications and start them directly from the Finder. It's
> > >effects can range from undetectable (almost) up through missing icons and
> > crashing
> > >the system. (Really, the Finder should have some way of validating an icon
> > input to
> > >Desktop from an application. Either it doesn't or the check is inadequate.)
> >
> > Good advice if it were the Desktop file, but that's not his problem.
> > ProDOS, HFS, and MS-DOS disks use the same icon.  The
> > icon shows up when a ProDOS or HFS disk is inserted but not
> > an MS-DOS disk.  Therefore, the problem is not with the Desktop
> > file.
> >
> > The problem is the MS-DOS FST not being able to deal with
> > Windows 95 (and Windows 98) long file names.  Whenever
> > this feature is used on ANY file on the disk, the disk will
> > become invisible to the MS-DOS FST (or rather invisible to
> > the Finder for purposes of mounting an icon when it polls
> > the MS-DOS FST).  Even if you later delete all the files with
> > long file names, it will NOT fix the disappearing icon problem.
> >
> > So use Windows 95 or Windows 98 features when saving
> > to a floppy means the floppy will only be accessable using
> > MUG!