Re: WHO???

[CUTblakeney@home.com (Jeff Blakeney)]

On 20 Aug 1999 15:29:42 GMT, wbdesnoy@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Byron
Desnoyers Winmill) wrote:

>No, it does not give people the right to copy the software.  As it stands,
>copyright laws are not indefinite either.  This is an acknowledgement that
>some intellectual property has a greater social value, and should not
>depend upon the copyright holder for its survival.  And I am a firm believer
>in this principle.  Now the question still stands, how long should that
>interval be?  It is a question which I can not answer in good faith.

That question has already been answered in the copyright laws.  No
need to try to come up with another answer.  :)

>But a lot of software is simply destroyed, and that does concern me.  At the
>very least music has a chance for survival in the exchange and sale of
>second hand merchandise.  But software?  With the exception of individual
>sales, it has not even a prayer!  Take Apple II software, I have yet to find
>an original piece of software and documentation in used software shops or
>thrift stores.  Indeed, I stick to software like Sneeze and FrEd Writer
>because of this.  I also have originals of diskettes which came with the
>//e (DOS 3.3, Apple Presents . . ., and ProDOS).  Beyond that I have a
>disfunctional copy of PFS and manuals for AppleWorks.

I don't see why Apple II software can't survive through the exchange
and sale of second hand merchandise.  It may be a little harder to get
than some music but it is still available that way.

My thrift shops rarely carry Apple II software but I'm only in a city
of 100,000 and Apple wasn't quite as popular in Canada as it was/is in
the states, unfortunately.  I have found a couple pieces of software
that way, though.

In Toronto, I sometimes come across used Apple II stuff in various
places.

However, the best way to get stuff is from individuals that are
getting rid of their Apple IIs.  You can find these people through
your local users group, by posting want ads in buy and sell papers and
don't forget comp.sys.apple2.marketplace.

By the way, there are still a few vendors around that carry old
software either new or used versions.  Many of these have web pages on
the net.

One good place to check for stuff and to post a want ad is the
classifieds section of A2 Web.  They also have links to hardware and
software vendors web pages.  Check out:

     http://www.syndicomm.com/a2web

I got four Apple II systems and a bunch of software, books, manuals
and magazines for the price of shipping from the classifieds section
there.

>BTW - I am still looking for a version of Pascal which will work on a ROM03
>1Mb IIgs.

Check out the Byteworks.  They sell both the 8 bit Apple Pascal and
the 16 bit Orca/Pascal.  The URL is:

     http://www.byteworks.org

I don't know if Orca/Pascal will run on a IIgs with only 1 MB of RAM
and using it from floppies can be a little tiresome but Apple 1 MB
memory cards can be had for free to take you to 2 MB which will allow
you to run a whole lot more software.  Hard drives can be a little
expensive depending on how you get one but they will definitely make
using your IIgs a much more pleasant experience.  :)

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