Re: The battle Rages!

[quantum_cat@my-deja.com]

In article <37AA1A89.ED87FD45@ix.netcom.com>,
  Nick <spam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Well, if nothing else, the flame wars and persistent
> I-am-right-and-you-are-wrong exchanges are certainly entertaining.  It
> certainly livens things up in here!
>

You Fool!  You're actually reading this garbage.  In the words of the
that great God Lube Job.... "Get a Real Job"... Oh.  I guess he really
ISN'T omniscient.

> Personally, I think it is pretty pathetic to argue about something as
> trivial as reposting or compiling public or semi-public forum postings,
> especially if it has been done to become a value-added resource.  I

But of course you do, asshole.

> could see a problem if someone was mirroring Delphi on their own server
> or on USENET, but this isn't the case.  I also don't see the harm in
> archiving and distributing copies of extremely old software, where most
> of the companies don't even exist anymore, and those who do, aren't
> worrying about a platform with as small of a userbase to erode its
> profits.  The sites that distribute the software don't make money off of
> it, and if it weren't for those sites, the software would cease to
> exist, and so would a lot of interest in the platform.
>

OK... Let me file through your HD and see what I'd like to post on these
archive sites.

> There are a lot of moral and ethical questions raised about whether this
> practice is really "okay."  It would certainly not be a fair thing to

The law is clear.  You can question it all you like.  If you want to go
the route of thief, that's your business.  Just don't try to justify it
here, OK?

Thief.


> give a registered copy of say, Bernie to someone else, without their
> paying their fee to the authors.  There is a channel to purchase the
> software, and if you use the application, you should buy it.  However,

Ah.  So you say "Screw the used market!"???  Some of us folks have
actually bought those programs, and have the manuals and all.  You're
burning us.  Fuck you.

> if you want to play your old favorite game, say Summer Games, you have
> no reliable avenue to purchase the software.  You might be able to find

Reliable?  Join the real world, maggot.

> a site on the web that carries old stock or some such thing, but Epyx is
> not going to benefit from the sale, especially being that they don't

I've got Summer Games.  Screw Epyx.  You want to buy a copy?  I don't
play it any more.  Wanna buy?

> exist.  The same holds true for almost all apple II software where the
> companies are still around.  They've already made all the money they are
> going to make off of the software.  They sold off their stock to

Yep.  The point is that NOW (look at your watch to catch the time fool),
you are stripping any value from folks that have actually paid money for
these games, and might actually hold hope to get some value back from
their used copies.  Who the fuck are you to deny them that value?

> distributers long ago, and if any still exist in the channel, it is so
> far off the company's books, they probably don't even have a sku for it
> any more.  So are the distributers stuck?  Well, for those who really
> care and are in it for the nostalgia, they might buy the software
> anyway, just for the "cool" value... that is their market.  No one else
> is going to make an investment in something that old unless they really
> want it.
>

Build your straw man argument, chickenshit.  If I could get $5 for my
copy of Wizardry, why the hell do you think you should get it for free?

Because you are a fucking thief.

 > So, without saying it is right or wrong to participate in this
activity,

More weasel word.  Get a moral backbone, buttwipe.

> it doesn't really hurt anyone at this point, and it has such a minimal

Fucking lie.

> impact on society at large, that it is hardly worth the time to write

Add up these little festering insults on ethics and the impact is larger
than you think, shitlicker.

> the messages about.  The positive effect of making the old software
> available is that it allows for a larger interest in the platform.  The
> more interest there is in the platform, the better the odds that someone

AH!  The motto of a hooker.   Show a little tit and someone will buy.


> will want to buy a new piece of software for it.  There are a lot of
> strikes against old platforms as it is,  since they are slow, have
> limited modern capabilities and are difficult to maintain.  The platform

OK... An OLD fucking hooker.  Frankly, I don't see the Apple II like you
do.

> can use as many users as possibe to keep it alive.  It is kind of like

Nah... It's more like... "The more crack users we get, the better...
because they ARE equivalent to the more ethical users"

> Betamax... once the movies stopped flowing, it died a pretty quick
> death.  There was nothing to watch on it.  The handful of apps written
> for the appleII this decade aren't going to keep the platform alive.  A
> richer software base needs to exists for it to prosper  at all.
>

You look to the past base and drool.  I look to our developers and
praise.  Don't tell ME that your way is the the FUTURE and SAVIOR of the
Apple II!

You suck so bad.  Support our small group of Apple II developers.  Tell
the parazites to fuck off.   Otherwise, join the Turlettes.  And fuck
you.

> But where does one draw the line?  When does someone decide when a piece
> of software can be ethically "pirated?"  And who decides this?  Well,

Ok, moron.  Try the US Government.

> every individual is left to make that choice for his or her self.  Some

Yep.  Gee... Will I be a scum sucking thief, or do I have some ethics.


> assert it is moral for the sake of keeping the memory alive, some say it

Assertions need evidence.  Oddly enough... None is provided.

> is wrong, because it breaks copyright law.  The bottom line is that
> people are responsible for their own moral judgements, and if they have
> the law on their side, and if it is worth it, enforce it.  Otherwise,

Ah... I see you set some preconditions... "if it is worth it".

Some of us think it IS worth it.  And we get whiney babble from folks
like you.  Whine on.  I'll be here to remind you that your a bunch of
chickenshit rationalizing thieves.

> live and let live, and don't always assume someone is wrong because they
> don't think the way you do.

And I don't care WHAT you think.  ;)


Bye!


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