I believe another way is to use the ProDOS pgm CHAMELEON, to convert a file from Pascal to ProDOS file. It is available on many ftp sites including ground.ecn.uiowa.edu in the apple8/Pgms and apple8/Utils folders as well as in the Mirrors/caltech, ms.uky, and umich folders. --Steve -- --Steve (apple2pd@ground.ecn.uiowa.edu)