Re: apple.cabi.net and the A2-Delphi forum-- time to share?

["ClayEdge" <clayedge@navix.net>]

I have never felt restricted or barred from any secret information being a
user of the Delphi Forum.
There are no barriers other than putting money down.  Is that really that
hard.  Nothing good is Free.  I personally don't have a paying Delphi
Account, but I do access freely on the web side and I have been nothing but
pleased with the support and help I have received there.
Delphi is a business, they offer the forums free for advertising and in the
hopes that people will sign up for content accounts.

I am not sure Delphi will just allow 500mb of files in an unrestricted
download area.  I of course could be wrong

Dain
p.s I plan on getting a paying delphi account as soon as I get my GS
online....or a BERNIE powered Powerbook.

Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> "Greg J. Buchner" writes ...
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Paul Grammens wrote:
> >
> > > Rubywand wrote:
> > >
> > > > Isn't it time that the old A2 forum on Delphi 'open up', share, and
work
> > > > for the good of all Apple II users?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sounds good to me. It's not like there is any advantage to having
> > > barriers to Apple II usage. The easier it is to find info and
software,
> > > the more people will use Apple II's. The more people use Apples, the
> > > better for all of us.
> >
> > Yes, but that's not necessarily under the control of the people running
> > the Apple II section.  That's under Delphi's control.  The only way to
> > get access to the library section is to telnet in and Delphi wants
> > money for that.
> >
>
>      As long as the files are in a restricted area of Delphi, then, yes,
Delphi
> would automatically control access. What matters is who decides where the
files go
> and their decision about where this should be.
>
>      There is no particular reason why the files _must_ be on Delphi. If
they can
> not be maintained on Delphi at no cost, they could easily be moved to
another site
> or sites which would allow free access.
>
>
>
> > Plus, I dl believe that there is some software on there that the
> > author(s) have specified to be Delphi only so they just can't move
> > the whole set of files easily.
>
>      Many, maybe most, of the files appear to have come from GEnie. Most
of the
> remainder were certainly placed there without any specific restrictions
being
> specified by the creator. At the time the files are moved (if necessary)
to an
> open site, those who may have specified restrictions could be given an
opportunity
> to object and, if anyone did, his/her stuff would be deleted.
>
>
>
> > To put all the files somewhere else
> > would involve downloading all the files and then uploading them at
> > a new site.  They are already doing that with trying to move files
> > from Genie to Delphi so I don't think they need any more work.
>  ....
>
>      Moving lots of files between sites is a bit of a chore; but, it is
something
> I've done before (like 400-500MB worth). There would be no problem getting
help
> for the moves from Delphi and Genie to an open site.
>
>      As Paul observes, there is no advantage to erecting barriers which
shut out
> all but a tiny number of users. And, for sure, the more people who use and
enjoy
> their Apple II computers, the better it is for all users.
>
>      Isn't it about time we ended silly divisions? Having the files on
Delphi open
> to all users would benefit everyone and be a major step toward unifying II
> computing.
>
>
>
> Rubywand