Re: Reflections on the loss of the Official CSA2 FAQs

[James Stafford <jamess@funtv.com>]

Cturley2 wrote:
> 
> Today I celebrated (or was that celebated :) my 23rd  wedding
> anniversary. After a nice trip to the founding Apple II friends home
> with another Apple II icon (no names mentioned) of equal first name
> and status for a reunion of the two as it were, to give myself an
> anniversary gift, after sharing a nice bottle of Chaucer's Honey Mead I
> returned home to read my email for today. In several of many emails
> I read today, I was asked by friends to pay a visit to Nathan Mates
> website to see what he'd done to it.  So, I payed a visit and here's
> what I found...which I've reformatted in 69 col. text to honor
> Nathan Mates which I've quoted below for the 'Official CSA2 FAQs.
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> "This page permanently deleted
> 
> It is with great regret that I must announce that I feel that the
> Apple II community has been turned into a wasteland by pirates,
> thieves and liars. Further, a community that refuses to stand up to
> these scum is participating in their nonsense-- especially when they
> get suckered into believing that politeness is more important than
> the truth.
> 
> The Apple II community doesn't give a shit about the constant
> piracy, thievery, and hate of developers. And what's worse is that
> more people throw a fit that I just used a 4 letter word instead of
> being angry at the pirates that are truly killing the Apple II's
> future.
> 
> I have invested many thousands of hours in Apple II creations, from
> programming to maintaining the best and most correct set of Apple II
> resources. Thanks to the jerks, this work has been constantly
> maligned, stolen, insulted and I now count that investment of time
> as a waste. The Apple II community has been given up on years ago by
> people with more common sense-- and now it is my turn to join them
> by turning my back on the "community," shaking the dust off my feet
> at them and moving on.
> 
> The pirates may be able to steal various works. But, the creator has
> the true power that they never can match-- the power to also
> destroy. To this end, I have low-leveled all HD partitions and
> backups on my machines. There will not be another GUPP update from
> me, no Twilight II 2.0. Many other projects in various stages of
> development-- previously unannounced due to my not wanting to
> promote vaporware-- will likewise never appear on the Apple II. All
> files used to create this web site have been similarly overwritten;
> I have *none* of those files in my posession anymore-- and they
> won't be coming back. And from my opinion, that's a good thing, as I
> won't have to put up with the constant barrage of lies and
> unappreciative users.
> 
> As long as the Apple II community is too idiotic to tell the
> difference between the truth and lies couched in politeness, to tell
> the difference between supporting pirates and developers, to tell
> the difference between meaningless talk and actually creating, it
> will be cursed to have more and more top developers leave. Less and
> less will be created until the platform lies in obscurity, only the
> domain of a few backbiting thieves who'll never create anything new
> again.
> 
> Special mentions of thieves, liars, and crooks who have tried their
> best to push away developers: Charles Turley (piracy and lies), Jeff
> Hurlburt (aka Rubywand and SiFan-- more lies and outright hate of
> developers, as the Wolf3D incident proved), Karl Asha (running a
> pirate site), Patrick Kane (same), Steve Mentzer (posting many
> pirated materials, then claiming for years to not have done so). The
> blame for lack of Apple II development lies firmly at their feet,
> but nobody seems to have cared.
> 
> And from me to the Apple II community: goodbye and good riddance.
> You asked for developers to shun you, and they're too happy to
> oblige. Don't bother contacting me; filters have been put in place
> to automatically toast such messages.
> 
> Nathan Mates
> 
> 7/14/98"
> 
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> To which I simply reply: Thanks Nathan. What a perfectly lovely
> anniversary gift and Christian thing to do!  If you ever want to
> come back with your Apple II offerings, give me a buzz.  I've done
> it enough and certainly know how.
> 
> Peace, Love & Best Wishes in all the GOOD things you do.
> Tom
> 
> To Brutal Deluxe I wish you ALL a 'Very Happy Bastille Day'.
> 
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> 
> Rev. Charles T. Turley
> 
> "To you has been given the secret of the Kingdom of the Gods and Goddesses, but
> for
> those outside, everything orbits in parabolas"  Euclid
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What can I say? Toota lu... Don't let the door hit in the... on the wat
out... Good rithens? I guess this why I've switched to using Linux all
most 100% of the time. Linux is really in the Spirit of the original
Apple computer. Sotware and code shared, and the best of all you don't
have to listen to all the snibbling about pirates, and all of they're
the reason why the Apple II is dying, and they're the reason why no new
software or other products are coming out.

keep on computin',

jamess