Re: Wozniak vs Jobs

[regnirps@aol.com (Regnirps)]

Jeff Lemke <lemke@terra.cira.colostate.edu> wrote:

>Regnirps wrote:
>> 
>> Jeff Lemke <lemke@terra.cira.colostate.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> >Sorry if I stepped on any toes about the Lisa.  I was repeating
>> >something I had either read in BYTE Magazine in the 1995 issue of the
>> >20th anniversary of personal computing, or something I had heard in the
>> >PBS miniseries "Revenge of the Nerds".  I have no personal experience
>> >with using Lisas.  Perhaps I shouldn't reference a non-Apple source of
>> >information in an Apple newsgroup.
>> 
>> Of course you are right that the Mac/LaserWriter/PostScript super
>combination
>> was a Jobs brainchild and nobody has ever really caught up.
>> 
>> I would argue that Macs are still preemminent in DTP despite attempts by PC
>> software vendors. The Wintell systems are just too undetemninistic. You can
>pop
>> a floppy when it is trying to use it and I notice that PC users on Win95
>still
>> double check to make sure things really happen like file copying or moving
>> around in directories.
>> 
>> 
>> Charlie Springer
>
>
>Never mind about my questions about popping a floppy or things being
>undeterministic.  But I've never found that to be terribly significant. 
>I hardly ever use 3-1/2" floppies.  But even when I do, or use a Zip
>disk or an optical disk or a CD, if I want to access it in Explorer, I
>just click on whatever drive that device is mapped to, which means
>clicking on the "A" or "B" drives for the floppies (I actually do still
>have a 5-1/4 in my machine, "F" drive for the CD (C,D, & E drives are
>hard drives), "G" drive for the optical, or some other computer's shared
>device on the network, whether it's a ZIP drive, or the LaserGraphics
>film writer or whatever.  If you remove a disk from the device your
>accessing, it is true that Explorer will not update its display - it
>will continue to show the contents of the disk (of whatever type) you
>just took out.  It won't refresh the screen until you either
>double-click that drive and close it or execute the refresh command. 
>Actually, it's easiest to close that drive first before removing that
>disk if you're not going to put another disk in that drive.  Quite often
>I'm looking through several disks and I hit the 'refresh' command when I
>change the disk.  It's not a hassle, really, but it would be nice if the
>OS would know when a disk was removed and close the list of contents for
>that disk automatically. 

> But wouldn't that involve changing some of the
>sensors or electronics of all those different types removable storage
>devices from all those different manufacturers so that a disk drive of
>whatever type would communicate to Windows 95 that a disk had just been
>removed?
>
>Jeff Lemke

Yes, anbd adding eject motors like VCRs and Apple Sony drives. Tthats why it is
really impossible to do it for the PC family, though Rhappsody Yellow Box for
PC will have to do something clever. What happens if you remove a floppy or Zip
when a program is still writting to it? Maybe there is a pause and you think it
is done?

Charlie Springer