Re: Wozniak vs Jobs

["Greg J. Buchner" <buchner@freenet.msp.mn.us>]

On 4 Apr 1998, Supertimer wrote:

> shack@onyx.southwind.net (Randy Shackelford) wrote:
> 
> >It no longer matters who was right. The end result is that no IIgses have a
> >65816 with a rating higher than 3 MHz. And since Mensch hasn't delivered a
> >successor to the 65816, that makes me lean toward the Gassee side of the
> >story. (Now before anyone throws in some Scott G type "WDC needed Apple to
> >support their R&D" malarkey, keep in mind that 6500 chips are a lot more
> >things than Apple IIs. That's no excuse.)
> 
> That's funny, SOMEHOW, Applied Engineering got 10Mhz 65816 chips
> in their Transwarp processors.  SOMEHOW, Zip Technologies got the
> faster chips in their Zip accelerators.  SOMEHOW, only Apple didn't get
> them.  We are talking about 1989 here...during the Gassee speech, they
> were fighting about the 65816 in the ROM 3...10Mhz was out by then!
> 
> SOMEHOW, CMD got a hold of 20Mhz units when SOME people still
> claim that WDC never upgraded the chip.

Reality check here....

First of all, AE and Zip Technologies (or MTCA or whatever they became)
would have been ordering a 1000 or maybe 10,000 at a time.

Apple, as a large manufacturing company, at that time would only order
out of a suppliers stock, and for Apple to do that, WDC would have had
to have a stock in excess of a quarter of a million.  If they didn't
have that, Apple couldn't guarantee having enough chips for a production
run.

For Apple to have made a faster GS, WDC would have had to have produced
a large number of faster 65816's, they could't have gotten by on the
handful that Mensch had at that infamous meeting.

Greg B.

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