Re: Appleworks is STILL commercial, rubywanker is a pirate

[pfg@cs.rmit.edu.au (Paul Francis Gilbert)]

nathan@visi.com (Nathan Mates) writes:

>In article <35231454.8A3F3A5F@swbell.net>,
>Rubywand  <rubywand@swbell.net> wrote:
>>> I need help finding the Appleworks software for the Apple //e on 5.25
>>> disks. ....
>>     You can find Appleworks II as two disk image files on Asimov at ...

>   Appleworks is STILL being sold new by Scantron Quality Computers
>(v5.x) and other distributors for previous versions. The above is an
>invitation to pirate, to steal, to rip off, and break the law without
>warning the person that they're about to do so.

Really? As far as I can see it's just a msesage pointing out that a copy
is at Asimov. It doesn't even go into whether it's illegal or not... and
you'll notice that Rubywand wasn't a) actively giving out an illegal copy,
and b) wasn't on his website.

>   If anyone was on the fence on this issue, Rubywanker has just
>proven once again that he is a software pirate, one who supports
>piracy and stealing from programmers. Couple this with his multi-week

Time for you to get back on the dried frog pills, Nathan ;-). Pointing out
that Appleworks is still being sold commercially doesn't mandate a flame
against Rubywand. But then again, everyone more or less expects some rant
from you these days. Missing Tom are we?

>hatefest of all the hard work given away for free in Wolfenstein GS
>1.0 (tip: the bug's *still* in ROM and *still* Apple's fault, no
>matter what his longwinded bullposts said), and you see that Jeff

The team *Still new* about the problem, and *still* didn't do anything
about it, and *still* didn't even bother to tell anyone about the problem
until way after it was released. No matter how much you respect them, it's
*still* therefore a bug in their game, no matter how much bullshit you post
trying to support them.

Once again drawing a similie, if I write a program for Windows 95, and find
that a call that fails, completely trashing the computer and formatting the
hard disk in the process, I don't leave it in and blame it all on Windows 95.
The problem exists, and the fact that I don't work around makes my program
*buggy* as well as the *os*.



>Hurlburt (rubywanker's real name) hates the presence of Apple II
>developers, ones who can and will call him on lies like this.

I honestly wonder if Nutball really *wants* anyone to take him seriously.
He so consistantly posts flames and attempts to defame people, I can't help
but feeling he's engaging in a year long April-Fools prank.

>   Rubywanker has made his living off the theft of ideas and software
>of others. If you want anything new, why should you tolerate his

Yet more defamation, I see. You're now accusing him of intellectual theft.
As has been pointed out before, there's a big difference between a flame
and deliberate defamation, and I think that statement's crossing over it.
Not that I expect you to obey the law, mind you, since you have demonstrated
consistently you have as much respect for it as the so-called pirates you
flame against.

Who was it who said "He protests too much, methinks" ;-)

>behavior along these lines, and his mere presence? Continually remind
>him that his slimeball behavior is tainting all of his words and that
>he should go back under the rock and never post again, or change his
>ways. 

As we continually remind you that we think you're slime, and the Apple //
group would be better off without. You certainly start on average 90% of
the flamefests, which have driven off many Apple // enthusiasts. That's
cause and effeet for you. But like piracy, I don't expect you to 
understand that: you all just find something to blame it on, be it the
cost of games, or just that "mr x pirated before I flamed him".

>   You cannot make peace with a mugger and a thief who is unwilling to
>change his ways. 

I take it you're infering that you don't plan to change your ways, then?
Probably too much to ask for. I would've killfiled you ages ago Nathan,
except that I'm ashamed to admitted I find your rampant moralistic
crusades amusing. That's probably all I expect from the Apple //
newsgroups these days... you've already done a great job on driving out
most of the serious Apple // enthusiasts with the sheer volume of your
drivel.

>Nathan Mates

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><*> Nathan Mates http://www.visi.com/~nathan/      <*>
># What are the facts? Again and again and again-- what are the _facts_?
># Shun wishful thinking, avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors
># think-- what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? -R.A. Heinlein

"care not what the neighbours think" says it all doesn't... Nathan really
doesn't give a shit about anything. His constant flames are just an excuse
to sauve his feelings of inadequaucy. It's probably something Freudian. ;-)

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