Owen, I believe the question refers to removal of the '816 on the motherboard....this is done from the front of the machine... on a TWGS..to get out the '816 on the board...there are 4 holes/slots ..1 in each corner where you can stick a tool to pry the chip out. --GSer gser@jadetech.com http://www.jadetech.com/~gser/ -- Paul Krass - (p.krass@genie.com)