Of course a 13 MHZ gs runs faster than a 25 MHZ 486. The GS's clock-rating (according to many sources) should be multiplied by 4 to get the PC equivalent. Thus 13 MHZ*4 = 52 MHZ. I heard this here on the newsgroup as well as the Apple II history. So this statistic that Scott G quotes all the time makes perfect sense. Adam Myrow