Re: Tom Turley: Banned from Attending K-Fest '97

["Charles T. 'Dr. Tom' Turley" <cturley@grin.net>]

Joko posted with quotes and comments from some unknown thread - (as I 
can't even access it with the following:


 >Charles "Dr. Tom" Turley is holds the undisputed title of most
 >unpopular person in the A2 world.  His past sins included
 >pirating of current software, and sector-editing software.  T
 >hose activities were done in the distant past.  He has apologized
 >to those whom he offended or injured.
 
And Joko retorts:
"Excuse me. It was on February 5, 1997 that he uploaded pirated copies 
of
Brutal Deluxe's two commercial software products to an ftp site.
 
Not only didn't he ever apologize, he denied that he had anything to do
with this incident, despite the fact that log files maintained by his 
ISP
showed he uploaded the software and because of those logs, his ISP
terminated his account.
 
Read all about it at: http://www.cyberstation.fr/~zardini
"

cturley@grin.net replies: 

Excuse me - Joe Kohn, nobody proved anything about ME doing any of the 
above and I still claim that I DID NOT do it.  Yes, it was done from my 
old ISP wco.com acct. Yes, it happened on 2/5/97  - But, I did not do 
it.

Somebody else did it from my old ISP acct. after obtaining the password 
to access my acct. from me to update their web page in the US-
A2WUG area - during my absents for the weekend. And, they also did a 
GREAT job of faking and mailing two emails from my old ISP acct, using 
my name and a very close rendering of my writing style.

Zardini's web site is a joke - filled with ignorant speculation having 
no bvasis of any proof that I did anything, because I DID NOT do it.

Yes, in my ignorance of allowing somebody (JB) (who never sent me the 
programs in question) to have access to my web site with the password, I 
left myself wide opened for this and must bare the results!  
Non-the-less, I did not personally do the uploads of the BD software to 
the ftp site mentioned, nor did I instruct anybody to do it from my old 
ISP (wco.com) acct. It was done from my old ISP acct. without my 
knowledge, consent or endorsement. I'm simply not that stupid to cut my 
own throat with such a childish and blatantly traceable action from my 
own acct.

Neither did I ever upload anything to anybody- anywhere that had 
anything to do with anything you sell or distributre (excluding the one 
ignorant incident with the Pacmania archive - which I've stated in 
public - was done by me, in inocent ignorance of the content and status, 
promptly removed it when advised to and made a public post and apoligy 
for that error and mistake)

Believe it or not, I really don't care what you or anybody else thinks 
any more - last chapter - end of story!

Neither you (Joe Kohn, BD, Ian Schmidt, Richard Bennett or any others - 
who hate my presents are going to run me away from the A2 community with 
your minipulative politics and elite circle of power tricks, lies and 
misinformation campaign tactics.

Civil Wars are not very productive in a community such as the Apple II 
community, so why continue with such?  Civil Wars have never proved to 
be productive in any manner, and I want engage in such efforts with you 
or any of the others. 

Now, unless you want to reactivate the 'Days of Terror' on this CSA2 
newsgroup again - I urge you and all the others making these posts to  
please give it up, get smart and try to concern yourselves, your own 
productive and constructive A2 efforts and (you - Joe Kohn) with your 
next issue of SSII and not with the historical-gossip, histerical, 
ignorant speculation and ignorant rags and rants - concerning ME!  You 
want to put this crap where it really should be put - then put it in 
SSII - in your 'Lies, Lies, And More Lies' By Professor G.S. Gumby.

Cheers,
Tom

PS: If I wanted to attend K-Fest-97, I could and I would!  I don't and I 
won't attend such an event and be humiliated and bathed with hate by you 
and most of the others that will be attending. I'm not in to public
pain and hate - nor is there anything worth my going to K-Fest-97 for.
You can all do a 'Roast Dr. Tom' this year, video-tape it and sell it
to raise some money for your A2 efforts in the future.