Re: Mac HD #M0135

["thedm" <thedm@idir.net>]

Oh, and one more thing, IF ITS NOT A SCSI DRIVE...excuse the *()&%&*(4 out
of me for trying to help.  I offered more help than most of you.

thedm <thedm@idir.net> wrote in article
<01bc4849$2479b620$05e965ce@thedm.idir>...
> When you talk about open your mouths......You should open your eyes....
and
> read the whole message.
> 
> I said, You would have to remove the SCSI drive and put it in an External
> Case and use an APPLE II SCSI CARD.
> 
> If your going to BASH me, quote the whole post...... and you'll see
> yourself, that you are wrong.  I never intended to say that the MAC 20
> drive would work in its original configuration, only that the HARD DRIVE
> ITSELF would work connected to the apple HIGH SPEED SCSI interface inside
a
> normal SCSI case. NOT THE ORIGINAL CASE.
> 
> Randy Shackelford <shack@deimos.frii.com> wrote in article
> <5iqt8a$k58$1@europa.frii.com>...
> > In article <5iqh6k$bvl$1@news.vanderbilt.edu>,
> > Tilghman Lesher <NO%lesh%SPAM%erjt%HERE@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
> > >thedm (thedm@idir.net) wrote:
> > >
> > >: SCSI is SCSI I see no reason why the MAC 20 HD wont work, but you
will
> have
> > >: to use and internal scsi card and put the MAC 20 HD in an external
> Case.
> > 
> > Man it would be cool if people would figure out what's being discussed
> before
> > opening their mouths (fingers?). A hard disk 20 is an external 20 mb
hard
> disk
> > that plugs into the floppy port on pre-SCSI Macs. Not to be confused
with
> > the HD20SC, the first external SCSI hard disk, or the 20 mb Miniscribe
> SCSI
> > mechs which came in the first SEs with internal drives.
> > 
> > >SCSI may be SCSI, but there are several types of SCSI.  The one used
> > >most frequently in Apple II's in SCSI-II.  I think there's now a
> SCSI-III
> > >standard.  Of course, there is also SCSI-I, and SASI (pre-SCSI).
> > 
> > Who told you that Apple IIs use SCSI-II? They can use the drives, but
> they
> > fall back to SCSI-I when  you connect 'em up to a SCSI card. Apple IIs
> are
> > not  fast enough to keep up with SCSI-I throughput so it would be
utterly
> > pointless to implement SCSI-II on 'em.
> > 
> > >The HD20 may be SCSI-I or SASI.
> > 
> > When I was looking to buy one, someone told me they use the MFM style
> hard
> > disk like PCs from the same era.
> > -- 
> > Randy Shackelford                                 
> > shack@frii.com                                    
> > 
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