Re: irc -appleiigs

[dwy@ace.net (David Young)]

Marvin (guenter@student.uni-kl.de) wrote:
: I don't know Toby, we just share the same attitude. I have not insulted you
: or Dave directly, except that I called you a sucker, which you are. Yes,
: people like you are motivation suckers and the psychological damage which
: is done by your kind is far more worse than the damage from the lowest
: software pirate in the world. And speaking of insults, who has started 
: to use vulgare language, you or me? Keep your flame bait for yourself, please!

You've got a lot of nerve criticizing #appleIIgs when it's churned out
hundreds more GS programs than you. Fact of the matter is, you have
nothing to back up your words with. It's like Monopoly money. You're such
a great contributor because of your "atttitude"? Attitude doesn't get
working code on to your disk drive, pal.

: I believe that arrogance is a kind of occupational disease among Apple
: programmers. I hope that I don't aquire this attitude when I have
: written some working IIgs programs. Fortunately there are still many nice
: guys left on csa2. Some of them have even contributed some useful programs,
: but this should be not so important. The most important thing is the
: Apple II spirit which you have long lost.

Apple programming was never my occupation; there were no jobs doing it.

Who said we had your "spirit" when we did go GS programming? I sure as
hell didn't. I wasn't interested in creating something great for the
"community". To hell with that, I was interested in a cool project that I
felt like coding for my personal amusement. When you start programming
things that other people want, you get Windows.

Me. I. There, I said it.

: If you have trashed your Apple II and get ecstatic when you see a Mac or an
: UNIX system, it's ok. I use both systems, too. But it's not ok to bug
: the people who are still convinced that the gs architecture is worth
: further development. 

Who bugged who? Get your facts straight. I don't recall anyone on
#appleIIgs ever seeking you out and harassing you. How are we hindering
IIgs development, other than by not participating in it? 

: You should really rename your channel, then you
: won't have to deal with so many Apple II nerds who are just seeking friends.

You should really rename your self, then people won't confuse you with the
overbearing Marvin the Martian, except for the similarities in
personality.

We should rename our channel? Says who? You? Again _you_? 

And you call *us* egoists.

: But I don't expect that my advice will be accepted, as the people on
: #appleiigs seem to accept no other opinions than their own...

What did you think, we're all going to gasp with mortal regret and go out
tonight and hand out flowers to orphans? Wrong opinions can't change a
damn thing.

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