Re: I appologize for confusing Apple with Mac

[shack@onyx.southwind.net (Randy Shackelford)]

Tilghman Lesher (lesherjt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) wrote:

: Irrelevant.  Apple III and Lisa were fairly unsuccessful projects.  Apple
: II was _the_ de facto standard for education when Apple decided to end
: support.  Apple III was a failed attempt to penetrate the business market.

Tell someone who dropped ten grand in 1983 dollars on a Lisa that they're 
irrelevant.

: When Product A is outselling Product B, deciding to discontinue Product A
: is about the worst thing you can do.  But this is what Apple did.

I heard a story back in '92 that nationwide, Apple sold seven IIgs and seven
//e system in a one month stretch. Not cost effective to produce something 
selling like that.

: And consider that other computer companies, i.e. Microsoft, are only now
: discontinuing product support (after sales have long since dwindled to
: $0), Apple simply isn't at the top of the heap.  It's made some VERY BAD
: marketing decisions which make IBM's decision to hand off the OS seem
: TRIVIAL.

Does MS still sell Decathlon or Multiplan? Support != sales. You can still
go to a dealer and get your Apple II fixed.

: She posted in the wrong newsgroup, and we were attempting to explain her
: error.  Please contradict my statement if you can.  

I don't get how you say trying to convince her that a Mac is not an Apple
computer is trying to point out her error. I think "you're posting in the
wrong group, try a Mac group" would have worked better. Your post was 
counterproductive at any rate, she posted again asking whether Apple Computer
makes Macs.

: "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it."  Five years down the
: road, Apple will probably discontinue support for the 68000 processor
: machines.  HAL 9000 says, "Are you sure you're making the right decision?"

Yep, I realize things move forward. I don't expect it to take five years
for 68K support to dry up. For example, there are no plans to make system 8 
run on 68K boxes. Who cares, I'll have a new Powermac by then.

: : >There's no question that a lot of people don't have very refined 
: : >communicating skills online.  But that applies to a percentage of owners 
: : >of ALL computers, not just Apple II's.

: : Your point?

: Point being, while we were not exactly clear in saying why her post was
: off topic, the post was still off-topic.  Please contradict this statement
: if you can.

Kindly explain the relation between "all computers have users who can't express
themselves" and "we posted a bunch of drivel which confused the person we
tried to get rid of and it didn't work so she kept posting here".

: On the contrary, making a stink about something increases the chance that they
: won't post here again.  If you're nice to the stray dog, it'll come back.
: Scream at it, and it'll stay away.

Oh yeah, you really got her to leave

: If you want to support/promote/talk about mac's, go to the mac newsgroups.
: Go directly to the mac newsgroups.  Do not stop by the Apple II newsgroups.
: Do not pass Go.  Do not collect $200.

OK tell you what, next time asks how to get their files back and forth between
their Mac and II or how to share printers or how to boot a II off a network,
you answer them.
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Randy Shackelford                                 US Air Force officer
shack@southwind.net                               and Apple aficionado