Re: Dr. Turley-PLEASE READ

[Dark_Dude@darkcastle.ecore.fnet.org (Dark_Dude)]

In Article <4rfd49$3i0@blackice.winternet.com>,
<nathan@parka.winternet.com> wrote:


>   And a Mr. Tigh Buckles who I've given spelling and grammar lessons
>to, what the heck is wrong with that? You turn in a resume like that,
>you'll just have to keep looking. He claimed to be of the age where he
>was _SUPPOSED_ to be learning that in school. He eventually learned
>about newsgroups and relevancy after several more and more flamelike
>attempts to point that out; a few more and he might fix his punctuation.


And what if he is word blind? In that case he can't help making grammar
errors. Moreover, it's the message that counts, not the grammar. Check out my
messages. There are tons of grammar errors in it, and that's because I'm
Dutch, and b) I don't run a spelling checker on my emails after I've finished
them.

So IMHO it's useless to spill bandwith on correcting grammar errors. I pay
alot to receive these messages because I'm connected to FutureNet. And as
being the second European Site of FutureNet (Magnus Ericson runs Aug-Sweden),
I have to call to Anti-Matter BBS, which is ran by David Miller.

The reason his BBS is my uplink, is because of the fact that the sysadmin.
won't allow me to install several mail programs on the university that I
attend.

In other words: carrying this newsgroup costs me about Dfl. 4,- per day. The
more nonsense and flames (i.e. non-apple II topics), the more I (and also
others!) pay for the sense-topics.



>buildup-- I start off with a polite correction and then use stronger
>language as they refuse to get the message. A Dejanews search of my
>dealings with Mr Buckles will show that I was polite for several
>messages _before_ taking off the kid gloves. With Dr. Tom, the nice
>stage was years ago, but it was there also.

I'm on irc very often, on #nederland to be exact. And I've got quite high
levels on the local bot there, and sometimes I play "daddy" on that channel.
But what I see, are comments like: "Doede, stop playing daddy", and so on.

Then I realize that I AM playing daddy and that people don't like it. I've got
the same feeling with you. It's like you're playing daddy on this newsgroup
and alot people don't want you as their daddy.
Just my thoughts....



>you quoted above? I said absolutely NOTHING about content in .sigs,
>just those that were _excessively_large_. It's just not I but
>thousands more on usenet that'll tell you 4 lines, 80 cols is not just

You are VERY right there! It's a waste of bandwith to have sigs longer than 4
lines. Imagine people calling to e.g. my BBS at 2400 baud, and having to read
those long sigs aaaalll  the time!



>>>    If people don't lie, we don't flame. Very simple. The solution is

But there IS a difference between abusively lying, and those who don't know
better. I myself know quite alot about the Apple II, but not half as much as
you do. When I state something, and it's wrong, I don't lie, I just don't know
better.


>proof of Dr. Tom selling pirated Appleworks for $10 and advertising
>that in SF newspapers. Dr. Tom has admitted online to being
>non-hetero.] I think they just found a target that was trivial to
>flame, and got their jollies from it.


Yeah, just like that stupid TG-Fax program! Someone just tried to nail Dr. Tom
because HE CAN'T PROGRAM GS/OS PROGRAMS! There are quite a few people willing
to nail him, so I expect one of them doing this advertisement trick (IF it
exists).

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       -= Doede =-  a.k.a Dark Dude -=- dboomsma@sci.kun.nl
       Team leader of the Oak-Procession-Runners (Tour de France '96)