Re: **** Ch.A.O.S. ****

[bazyar@hypermall.com (Jawaid Bazyar)]

Jeffrey Wood (woodzy@delphi.com) wrote:
: Hi, and welcome to Ch.A.O.S. Country.  Welcome to the revolution.  The 
: Cheyenne Area Orphaned Systems, or Ch.A.O.S., is a club devoted solely 
: for the preservation of classic non-IBM systems, such as ours, and for 
: the defeat of Microsoft.  If we wanted IBM compatability, we would have 
: abandoned our systems long ago.  Those of us who do have IBMs, but 
: still use our classics, only bought them out of necessity, such as for 
: work or school.��This is not a political organization.  We do not hold any 
: specific right wing or left wing political views.  We do believe in fair 
: competition and Microsoft is NOT fair. 

  If you don't like Microsoft products, don't buy them. _That_ is the
only definition of "Fair" based on rationality.  Nobody is putting a gun 
to your head to force you to buy Microsoft products. Microsoft happens
to have put out the products that people want, and contrary to
many people's beliefs, __people do not keep buying products that do
not give them some benefit__.

  Microsoft is a huge corporation because Bill Gates knows how to
create and distribute mass-market computer software. There is no force,
no fraud involved. 

  If you want to compete with Microsoft - DO IT! Nobody's stopping you.
There are many alternatives to Microsoft products (more than I can count),
and a lot of people go with the alternatives. IBM's OS/2 is highly 
regarded by its users; Macintosh is of course a common system; WordPerfect
has a producitivity bundle called PerfectOffice. If you don't like 
Microsoft's products, then fine, but don't whine about Microsoft
being "unfair", that meaningless catch-phrase of the "anti-trust"
crowd who seek only to destroy businessmen because they're
good at what they do.

  I just purchased Windows '95 for my PC and it's a great piece of work.
I often use Microsoft Word and it's a good piece of software as well.
I did the GNO and Splat! manuals in it, a total of several hundred
pages, so I know what I'm talking about. It's not perfect, but what
software over a coupl hundred lines _is_?  The only thing you can
do is report the problems so they can fix it.

  I'm also very pleased with Microsoft Visual C++; the environment
is very easy to use, and very well designed.

: We spent all that time and money on our respective systems because 
: the performed the task or tasks we bought them for.  Wether it be 
: for gaming, education, office, or whatever, our classic systems performed 
: upto our expectations, and in some cases, beyond the original design.  
: Why should we abandoned everything we put into our systems?

  Fine! I still have a IIGS sitting here, and I use it frequently
(this is my home machine; obviously I use the IIGS at Sequential
a lot to develop software :-)

[..]
:   Just imagine the fresh, new applications that can be developed that 
: retained the original C64s flavor.  No, this is not limited to the C64, 
: but to all classic systems, such as the Atari, Tandy CoCo, VIC20 (YES!), 
: Apple, etc.��All of our classicys stem have their own uniqueness, theiown
: distinctiveness.  That is why we refused to follow the industry or 
: marketing trends.  This would allow us to preserve our systems and at 
: the same time develop a cross-platform industry standard.  Who says we have 
: to follow the Microsoft standard?  

  Nobody says that, so stop screaming about "fairness". If you want to do
the things you've outlined above, just do it.

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