Re: Serious and annoying Apple ][ problems!

[shack@crash.cts.com (Randy Shackelford)]

In article <3kdqti$fua@cello.gina.calstate.edu>,
Jason Kennerly <jkenner@cello.gina.calstate.edu> wrote:
>
>On my motherboard, the place where the D8 rom goes >>>IS<<< empty maybe 
>yours is too? I've thought of swapping out the roms for some 2+ roms, but 
>then the thing says "apple two plus" when it boots instead. oh well

Yep D8 is empty in my ][ as well. I have Applesoft ROMs on a ROM card in slot
0. It only says APPLE ][ when you boot a ][ plus BTW. It wasn't until the //c
and enhanced //e that the screen told you what kind of II you have. And of
course a ][ without autostart ROM doesn't say anything.

>Im going to make a disk image of the old roms, and then swap to the new 
>ones, and compare them... maybe I can keep the apple 2 monitor and name 
>screen (the f8 rom) and use 2+ roms for all the rest (which would give me 
>applesoft basic, which is nice)

If you put in a language card it has a copy of the autostart F8 ROM and 
overrides what's on the logic board. You'll either want a ROM card or language
card since an integer-only 48K machine ain't good for much if you actually
use it.

Not to mention that you'll be missing out on the good features of the 
autostart ROM like having IJKM work in escape mode.

>I just entered the monitor on my 2, and used it to list contents of d8xx, 
>twice. As suspected, they varied - meaning the 'read values' are noise 
>due to the lack of a chip plugged in!

Yep just like you list the $C000 address space of an empty slot
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Randy Shackelford                                Huh huh, that was cool.
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