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Re: ProDOS, OS X and Netatalk



pitz wrote:

It may be the bridges performing the Phase 1 to Phase 2 translation.
The Sonic Systems bridge that I tried may not be doing that.   I'll
test with a Gatorbox or the other routers I have.

Testing with an AppleTalk "router" (an EtherRouteTCP/II) instead of a
"bridge" type of adapter allowed me to see the Kubuntu box from the
IIgs.

Searching the net for info, it looks like the IIgs uses AppleTalk
Phase 1.  A bridge would pass it through EtherTalk, but Phase 1 is not
recognized by Linux (at least as mentioned in some old docs at
http://www.anders.com/projects/netatalk/old/atalkd.conf.html and also
in Linux's ddp.c source).  Using a router that has Phase 1 on its
LocalTalk segment, and Phase 2 on its EtherTalk segment seems to
provide the necessary translation.

Great! I think that answers the question. I was unaware that the Gatorbox was actually converting Phase 1 --> Phase 2! I thought the only difference was the range of addresses permitted.

Out-of-the-box, the randnum UAMS is not enabled so I still wasn't able
to login to the Linux box.  I have to check if it can be enabled
through config or if a recompile of netatalk is needed.

That's correct. It's very easy to rectify the situation, though. Please see my earlier posting for complete details. Do not hesitate to contact me in private e-mail if you need any help getting that going!

The Farallon adapters (which I don't have) probably have the same
limitations as the Sonic Systems bridge that I tested with.

I believe that the Mac Localtalk / Ethertalk bridge application does a similar conversion. I had suggested to Tony that he give that a try.

Steve