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Copyrights. (The thread that wouldn't die)
- Subject: Copyrights. (The thread that wouldn't die)
- From: rwifall@NMSU.edu (Richard Wifall)
- Date: 27 Jul 1994 15:01:58 GMT
- Distribution: world
- In-reply-to: ralph muha's message of 23 Jul 1994 13:56:51 GMT
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
- Organization: Programmer for hire. Inquire for Resume.
- References: <30l02i$9t0@uuneo.neosoft.com> <30r7j3$4jq@sundog.tiac.net>
I'm posting this here for the benefit of Jeff and anyone else who has
been following this thread. I would especially like to point out
items 2, 5, and 8 as they have direct relevance to our
conversation.
In article <Ct6L45.2Ex@clarinet.com> Brad Templeton, brad@clarinet.com
writes:
:
: 10 Big Myths about copyright explained
: By Brad Templeton
:
:
: 1) If it doesn't have a copyright notice, it's not
: copyrighted.
:
: This was true in the past, but today almost all major
: nations follow the Berne copyright convention. After April
: 1, 1989, everything created in the USA, for example, is
: copyrighted and protected whether it has a notice or not.
: The default you must assume for other people's works is that
: they are copyrighted and may not be copied unless you *know*
: otherwise. There are some old works that lost protection
: without notice, but frankly you should not risk it unless
: you know for sure.
:
: It is true that a notice strengthens the protection, by
: warning people, and by allowing one to get more and
: different damages, but it is not necessary. If it looks
: copyrighted, you must assume it is.
:
: 2) If I don't charge for it, it's not a violation.
:
: False. Whether you charge can affect the damages awarded in
: court, but that's the only difference. It's still a
: violation if you give it away -- and there can still be
: heavy damages if you hurt the commercial value of the
: property.
:
: 3) If it's posted to USENET it's in the public domain.
:
: False. Nothing is in the public domain anymore unless the
: owner explicitly puts it in the public domain(*). Explicitly,
: as in you have a note from the author/owner saying, "I grant
: this to the public domain." Those exact words or words very
: much like them.
:
: Some argue that posting to USENET implicitly grants
: permission to everybody to copy the posting as much as they
: like. This is very probably wrong. First, the whole
: purpose of copyright is to provide protection to people
: *after* they freely distribute it. For example, George
: Lucas still owns Star Wars after broadcasting it on free TV
: or giving copies to lots of people. Secondly, that argument
: breaks down when one considers what it would mean for you to
: post an MPEG of Star Wars to the net (other than some really
: annoyed people with v.32bis modem feeds.) All the copying
: would still go on, but clearly without permission since you
: -- unless you are George Lucas -- didn't have the right to
: give permission to copy in the first place.
:
: (*) It's also in the public domain if the creator has been
: dead for 50 years. If anybody dead for 50 years is posting
: to the net, let me know.
:
: 4) My posting was just fair use!
:
: See the notes on fair use for a detailed answer, but bear
: the following in mind:
:
: The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to
: allow commentary, news reporting and education *on*
: copyrighted works without the permission of the author. In
: this case, the "on" is important. You must be commenting on
: or reporting about the *work*, not the subject matter of the
: work. If you could have reported the facts in your own
: words, but didn't to save typing, it's probably not fair
: use. If you needed to demonstrate something about the
: actual work or writing, then it might be fair use.
:
: Fair use is almost always a short excerpt and almost always
: attributed. It should not ruin the commercial value of the
: work (which is why reproduction of the entire work is
: generally verboten.)
:
: 5) If you don't defend your copyright you lose it.
:
: False. Copyright is *never* lost now, unless explicitly
: given away. You may be thinking of trade marks, which can
: be weakened or lost if not defended.
:
: 6) Somebody has that name copyrighted!
:
: You can't copyright a name, or anything short like that.
: Titles usually don't qualify, but I doubt you could write a
: song entitled "Everybody's got something to hide except for
: me and my monkey."
:
: However, you can trademark an adjective, when applied to a
: generic type of product or service. Like an "Apple"
: computer. Apple Computer owns that word applied to
: computers, even though it is also an ordinary word. Apple
: records owns it when applied to music. Neither owns the
: word on its own, only in context.
:
: You can't use somebody else's trademark in a way that would
: unfairly hurt the value of the mark, or in a way that might
: make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark, or
: which might allow you to profit from the mark's good name.
: For example, if I were giving advice on music videos, I
: would be very wary of trying to label my works with a name
: like "mtv." :-)
:
: 7) They can't get me, I'm innocent until proven guilty.
:
: Copyright law is mostly civil law. If you violate copyright
: you would usually get sued, not charged with a crime.
: "Innocent until proven guilty" is a principle of criminal
: law, as is "proof beyond a reasonable doubt." Sorry, but in
: copyright suits, these don't apply. It's mostly which side
: the judge or jury believes more.
:
: 8) Oh, so copyright violation isn't a crime or anything?
:
: Actually, recently in the USA commercial copyright
: violations involving more than 10 copies and/or value over
: $2500 was made a felony. So watch out. (At least you get
: the protections of criminal law.)
:
: 9) It doesn't hurt anybody, in fact it's free advertising.
:
: It's up to the owner to decide if they want the free ads or
: not. If they want them, they will be sure to contact you.
: Don't rationalize whether it hurts the owner or not, *ask*
: them. Usually that's not too hard to do. Time past,
: ClariNet published the very funny Dave Barry column to a
: large and appreciative USENET audience for a fee, but some
: jerk didn't ask, and forwarded it to a mailing list, got
: caught, and the newspaper chain that employs Dave Barry
: pulled the column from the net, pissing off everybody who
: enjoyed it. Even if you can't think of how the author or
: owner gets hurt, think about the fact that piracy on the net
: hurts everybody who wants a chance to use this wonderful new
: technology to do more than read other people's flamewars.
:
: 10) They e-mailed me a copy, so I can post it.
:
: To have a copy is not to have the copyright. All the E-mail
: you write is copyrighted. However, E-mail is not, unless
: previously agreed, secret. So you can certainly *report* on
: what E-mail you are sent, and reveal what it says. You can
: even quote parts of it to demonstrate. Frankly, somebody
: who sues over an ordinary message might well lose, because
: the message has no commercial value, but if you want to stay
: strictly in the law, you should ask first.
:
: Permission is granted to freely copy this
: document in electronic form, or to print for
: personal use. If you had not seen a notice
: like this on the document, you would have to
: assume you did not have permission to copy it.
: This document is still protected by you know
: what even though it has no copyright notice.
:
(Thanks Brad)
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