Re: Apple II Clones. How many sold?

[winston19842005 <bjjlyates@NOSPAMbellsouth.net>]

On 12/27/09 6:33 PM, in article 4B37EEBB.14687.usenet_csa2@a2central.com,
"sfahey" <sfahey@a2central.com.remove-erw-this> wrote:

>   To: Jeff Blakeney
>   Re: Re: Apple II Clones.  How many sold?
>   By: Jeff Blakeney to datajerk on Sun Dec 27 2009 02:46 pm
> 
>> datajerk wrote:
>>> So, was the C64 the best-selling computer "model" of all time?  Can
>>> the ~200 different Apple II clones significantly increase the the
>>> overall volume of the A2 family.  I speculate no.  Simply because my
>>> clone was still 3x the cost of the C64.  But I'd still like to know.
>> 
>> Keep in mind that the 5 million number I've heard for Apple II sales is
>> the total of Apple II, II+, IIe, and IIc computers.  The IIc+ may even
>> be included in that number.  That is 4 or 5 different "models".  You
>> would have to classify a clone as one of those models and come up with
>> totals for each of them separately.  I don't think the total for any
>> other these models will come close to the Commodore 64's numbers.
>> 
>> The Commodore 64 is said to have sold 17 million but that is only one
>> model.  It may include the 64C but that wasn't a different model, it was
>> just manufactured differently if I remember correctly.  They aren't
>> including the Vic 20, 16, Plus 4 or any other model in that total.
> 
> There seems to be more working Apple II gear on eBay than Commodore gear.
> 
> Anecdotal evidence may indicate that Commodore's race to undercut their
> competitors may have resulted in a machine that doesn't hold up as well. Or
> maybe because it was cheaper, it was more expendable to some -- and more
> likely to go in the dumpster.
> 
> <shrug>

Commodore power supplies are good at taking out the C64. Your power brick
suddenly takes out your C64, then you plug it into a good C64, power it up,
and now you have 2 dead C64s.

Bad quality control, and I can see no evidence that Commodore did anything
to fix it.