Re: ZipGS 12MHz on ROM 01?

[jlee@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Joseph)]

In article <1994Apr28.003250.28141@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> DANIEL PERLBERGER wrote:
(** note all caps sign of NEWBIE **)
: In article <2pibdm$g2i@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca>, glyn@gsb001.cs.ualberta.ca (G. Dev
: in Reade) writes:
[ now entering the braindead zone ]
: >I have a suggestion that might just work.  Get a real computer that hasn't

I have a better suggestion for you.  Go back and do your homework before
you try to assert non-facts.

I have done instruction by instruction, addressing mode by addressing mode,
cycle time by cycle time between the instruction sets of the x86 chips and
the 65816 chip.  (Hear advertiser's voice) "Pound for pound, your common
65C816S chip is a good as that gormet 386 chip."  Yes, the 65816 might not
have all the instructions nor addressing modes the Intel chips have, but
for every common instruction and memory addressing mode, the 65816 is
equivalent to the 386 chip, +- a few exceptions.

"What's the most common chip out today, dude?  386 you say?  Dude, like
no way, isn't that the chip inside the big bread box in the boss's office?
Yes, way!"

: been out of date for years now.  You are dying for 12 MHZ???  That is
: pathetic...  If I had 12 MHZ I think I would die from the waiting of the
: computer to process the information.  Face it, the Apple II had been dead, is

I've died waiting for a 66 mhz computer to process info and my friend's
Pentium HAS died from overheating.  Took it only 15 minutest too.

My computer died?  No way..I'm typing on a dead, substantiated nonexistance?
Whoa.  However, it seems kinda strange why would a enormous, lucrative
market called the personal computer market form for the sake of a dead
computer?  This said market interested IBM enough to enter and where it
found some serious competition from an unknown company built on a computer
made from common, off-the-shelf components.  Where did the idea for the
5 1/4" drive that revolutionized the way common computers can store data?
PBS made a special that highlighted a dead computer?  Whoa, what a concept.

: dead, and always will be dead.  A 8-bit/wanna be 16-bit computer of its type
: will never be able to come close to the funcionality of today's systems (i.e.,

8 bit wanna-be 16 bit?  Describes a lot of chips out there:
8086, 8088, DEC PDP-11, 6809, 80186, 80188, 80286 (barely), 68000 (barely)

These chips are very functional and still being used today (as of 4/29/94)
for DOS, Windows (blah, barely), Mac, UNIX.

: will never be able to come close to the funcionality of today's systems (i.e.\
,
: PC dos,windows, MAC, Unix, etc...)  Besides that, even if the IIGS was the

Obviously, you either never heard of GNO/ME nor used it.  Oh, and I notice
that you missed the tcp/ip thread over there across the street.  Pity.
Hey, watch out for the truck!  Oops, no monkey see and no monkey hear.

: most amazing machine on the planet, which it is far from being, the machine is
: not supported AT ALL by any software manufacturers today.  Therefore, it is an

Procyon, Sequential, Quality, Seven Hills, Vitesse, SoftDisk, DigiSoft,
Orange Cherry, SunBurst, Bright Software, Econ, ByteWorks, JEM, so many
educational publishers that I can't begin to name them all, and many
independent share/free/commercial individuals/groups.

: obsolete dinosaur that should be left alone.  Let it rest in peace for god's

It's about as obsolete as all those PC XT/ATs, Mac Pluses, old UNIX
mainframes still happily chugging away somewhere in a business, office,
or school.

: sake!  If you feel you can debate this, then be my guest.  However, I see now
: answer to the FACTS I have stated.

No I can't let it rest in peace, it still has so much to do like cranking
out my C homework.

Seriously, if you're still not convinced nor intrigued by the Real Facts(tm),
pop over sometime and see windows faster than the ones on a 50 mhz Mac LC,
UNIX look-alike OS overlay, faster and more featured database on less
memory and cpu power, video genlock quality better than majority of higher
priced cards on "other"(tm) computers, using a 486 as a dumb terminal,
sound from the leetle, whiny internal speaker beating the pants off the
sound quality of the majority of PC sound cards (not mentioning my speaker
setup), tcp/ip (Sometime Soon(tm)), software/hardware prices that don't
suck the fillings out of your teeth, zooming along with about any SCSI/IDE
HD out there, lots of usually pegged "Mac-Only" periphials, lots of the
"current" HP printers, reboot time that doesn't give you enough time to go
to the bathroom, stable and productive GUI that OS/2, Windows, and deviant
derivations still try to improve upon, and, and...

What was it you were talking about? I forgot.

Joseph
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