Re: I'll be at KansasFest 2010 - but you won't know me by sight :)

[IUnknown <stevementzer@gmail.com>]

On Dec 2, 3:24 pm, Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet
<tadap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Dec 1, 12:42 pm, Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet
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> > <tadap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 29, 3:08 am, f...@off.turdbag wrote:
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> > > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:46:00 -0800 (PST), Saint Isadore Patron Saint
> > > > of the Internet <tadap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > >I finally decided to attend the entire event and to meet all of the
> > > > >SPECIAL A2 folks.
> > > > >It would be so nice to see Rubywand there too.
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> > > > >Cheers!
> > > > >Tom
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> > > > Fuck off you vile piece of diseased dog shit.
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> > > Richard Bennett everybody!  Richard Bennett!!!!
> > > He knows how to make his feces fasination and his hate
> > > known for sure.
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> > > Do let me know if you'll be attending KansasFest 2010 too.
> > > If you are going - I'll surely need to hire a security guard.
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> > > With that flaming red hair - and your psycho-rave persona
> > > - one never knowns what danger you might present to me when
> > > we are both there.
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> > > Cheers!
> > > Tom
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> > Tom, you should give richard a break. Holding on to that hate for all
> > these years must have taken a real toll on his sanity.
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> > Ya know what would be cool. If Nathan Mates could grace us with his
> > presence and proclaim us all to be mortal sinners. I hear he has
> > plenty of time on his hands since pandemic studios bit the dust ...
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> I got an email from Nathan Mates several years ago *(YES Ian there
> really is
> a sound god)* way back when I was on AOL only.  He said in the email
> to me
> that he was sorry he had waged a hate war towards me and really
> thought I did
> a lot for the A2 world - even stimulating him to do a IIGS game
> 'Turkey Shoot'.
> Nathan really isn't some bible slapper know it all.  He's a great guy
> that just
> dislikes real software pirates.  Even in that email to me saying I
> wasn't the
> grand software pirate like Joe proclaimed me.  He said he didn't care
> to establish
> a friendly relation with me but, I could email him if I really needed
> something
> that he could do for me and if possible he would.
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> I'd LOVE to see Nathan posting here in CSA2land.  I'm going to email
> him and see
> if he would like to go to KansasFest with me (all my treat of
> course).  Can you
> just imagine; Nathan, Richard, myself and Rubywand all together live
> at the 2010
> KansasFest.  Now that could be a really amazing event.  Who knows
> 'Miracles may
> Happen'.
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> Cheers!
> Tom


That whole era was kind of a sad joke. It was like watching family
members fight over the scraps of a worthless estate held by a relative
they didn't really know....

Anyone who felt that most A2 software should be classified as
'abandonware' was labeled as an evil pirate. Realistically, did anyone
REALLY think that EA gave a rats ass if I downloaded 'Bards Tale' for
IIe?

I/We never denied that what we were doing was technically copyright
infringement....  I freely admit to downloading and playing the
classics.... but I never went so far as to distribute/sell them, and I
willfully *purchased* software like GSoft basic from guys that were
actively selling it (MikeW!)

I was labeled as a 'pirate' even tough I really *never* pirated any
software that took money out of the hands of the guys that were
left.....

The guys from brutal deluxe even went so far as to dedicate an entire
web page to my activities, even though what they documented was a
complete bait job ... (running a phony ftp site on a 28.8k modem with
a trial earthlink account and posting the ip address to the csa2
newsgroup and watching joe kohn log in)

What I *was* advocating at the time was a more relaxed status for
'abandonware'... you know, software where the copyright owners don't
care, are dead or simply do not exist anymore...

Joe, Nathan and Richard felt that if the current copyright holder
couldn't be found and contacted for an AFFIRMATIVE release as
'abandonware', it should be labeled as off limits.

I saw the futility in this.... there was no way that EA, Interplay,
Origin, Apple, etc were EVER going to reclassify the software. The
lawyers would take one look at the request, laugh and throw it in the
round file.

So I took a different path, and tried to convey my message to Nathan,
Joe, etc.... to no avail.

Looking back on it all, I shouldn't have gotten caught up in the
negativity ....

Cest la vie I suppose....