Can you send me info on doing it both way... I didn't think the tools were ROM based but if they are I might as well take advantage of it. Can you also send me a little info about what hooks I need to connect to install a CDA and what format the program needs to take...(x bytes for name etc..) P.S. I assume this can be done without disk-based tools? -- Clayten_Hamacher@Mindlink.bc.ca Land of the rising snow.