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Re: UDC short mystery - 2 different cards that both hate my Apple 5 1/4" - Different revs?



atfphotography@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 11, 10:30 pm, David Wilson <mcs6...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 12, 10:58 am, "atfphotogra...@gmail.com"

<atfphotogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sweet! I'll take a look at the these. How do you actually determine
which eprom you use in each situation? I have a Liron card here that I
would love to dump the ROM and create another one. Do you count pins
(24 in this case) and then someone figure out how much memory is on
the original ROM itself?
You read the part number on the chip (easy if it is an EPROM like the
UDC and not covered in a large label).

The SSC uses a 2716 with the same 256 bytes mapped into the slot CnXX
space. Newer cards like the 1MB Apple "Slinky" Memory card use a 2732
which allows them to have a unique copy of code for each slot.

24pin
2716 = 16 kbit = 2 kbyte
2732 = 32 kbit = 4 kbyte
28pin
2764 = 64 kbit = 8 kbyte (your green UDC has the CMOS version of this:
27C64)
27128 = 128 kbit = 16 kbyte
27256 = 256 kbit = 32 kbyte
27512 = 512 kbit = 64 kbyte

If the card has a mask ROM then I tend to tell the programmer that it
is the largest part with that many pins. Then I look at the contents
and look for either 1/2 or 1/4 all being FF (which tells me that some
of the address pins are actually chip selects) or if the dump repeats
then some pins may be don't cares.

That's amazingly helpful. I'll check out the ROMs on the cards and see
if I can determine their model. Here comes the big question; where do
I get empty EPROMs of those models? I looked on Jameco and they had
three models of the 2716.

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=40011&;

Is that a good source for EPROMs?

If you have an EPROM eraser (and you'll need one anyway ;-), I've found
this to be a great source of inexpensive used EPROMs:

http://epromman.com/

-michael

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