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Re: ZIP GSX 1.0.1 vs 1.0.2



Drew wrote:

So what the difference is between the two ZIP GSX boards, or should I say
the ASICs (large square IC), really isn't know (at least to me).  Maybe they
weren't sure about the ASICs ability to work and only has a small batch
produced.  Being this was 1989 (?) it was in the middle of the 'custom
logic'
reevaluation where it was really starting to become 'cheap' to produce these
large ASICs.  So if the 1.01 boards kind of worked, and worked good enough,
why not sell them?  It's just a business decision at that point.  Then maybe
they fixed a few minor reliability issues and produced a second batch,
v1.02.  Of course I have no idea what the real story is and I'm just
speculating.  In 1989-90 we all kind of knew that Apple II was on its way
out.  So that's where I start to consider the 'small batch' theory.

Thanks Henry for that, didn't really cross my mind that the ASICs
might be different between the two boards. Looking at the picture on
your site of the ZIP GSX 1.0.2 the ASICs do indeed look different
types to the one on my card. I did speak to you about this before, but
was bugging me that my card had the sockets :-).

My point is that those two chips were designed to do something with signals on the card and that the differences between 1.01 and 1.0.2 must amount to more than their presence or absence. In order for it to work without them, there must be jumpers to provide the equivalent paths in the circuit topology.

Perhaps they are simply buffers?

So, it sounds like it's possible to upgrade a 1.0.1 rev GSX from what I'm hearing.

My cards run fine, they never hang, get the odd crash but never sure
if thats the card or not to be honest. I was happily playing OOTW for
over an hour at full screen and full 12.5Mhz speed the other night....

Unfortunately, my 12.5Mhz. 1.0.2 board (I have one of each) does not run reliably. If left on it will eventually put the machine in a state where the mouse will move the cursor, but nothing else responds (nothing from keyboard or mouse buttons).

Maybe I'll have better luck with the 1.0.1 unit.

Steve