Re: Apple //e Dated 1984

["Justin" <No@nobecauseIhatespam.com>]

"Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote in message 
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> Eric wrote:
>> On Dec 16, 3:01 am, "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The PC CF card reader together with CiderPress makes "full disk"
>>>backup a trivial task you can do in a few minutes.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ciderpress is great. To partition and format a new card I just use
>> "dd" to clone an existing card, then I make my changes with Ciderpress
>> and plug it into the Apple. This is much faster than Ciderpress and it
>> handles the partitioning and formatting. I guess it might be less
>> reliable but my testing has been good. Even if it were to screw up it
>> probably can't damage anything and you can still do it manually.
>>
>> "dd" originated as a unix utility but there's a nice Windows version
>> of it here:
>> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
>>
>> Make 2 batch files, one to copy a card image to a PC file, and the
>> other to go the other way. Just don't get them confused!
>>
>> Copy from card to a PC file (if = input, of=output):
>> dd if=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0 of=c:\apple.img bs=1M --size --
>> progress
>>
>> Copy from a PC file to the card (just reverse the if and of):
>> dd of=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0 if=c:\apple.img bs=1M --size --
>> progress
>>
>> These examples assume that you only have 1 hard disk on your PC which
>> is IDE Harddisk0. So the CF card will be IDE Harddisk1. You should do
>> a list first to verify this, of course! Look for the size in bytes to
>> be sure that you have identified the CF card. Partition 0 is the whole
>> card, and that's all we use for the Apple disks.
>> dd --list   (note: 2 dashes)
>
> I've always formatted in my Apple //e, and have no complaints.
> The speed is as fast as I can type!  ;-)
>
>> When connecting to the CF card with Ciderpress, always connect to the
>> Physical drive and not the logical Windows drive. These cards do not
>> have an MSDOS filesystem and you don't want to invite Windows to
>> format the drive. NOTE: if Windows ever asks if you want to format the
>> drive you must answer NO!
>
> Good point.  It's something you learn to do habitually.
>
> (I keep Autostart turned off for all my drives.)
>
>> I'm working on some better documentation for these devices as time
>> allows. I have not gotton into DOSMaster yet. But I need to do that
>> next. This is what allows you to have many DOS 3.3 images on one 32
>> Meg Prodos flash partition. It looks a little complicated, but I'll
>> document it as I learn. There's an existing document that is a bit
>> technical and can be hard to understand.
>>
>> Someone in the CF forum already made a 32 Meg partition with a bunch
>> of DOS 3.3 images. If you read through the old postings in that forum
>> you'll learn more.
>>
>> The CFFA and GSE Reactive Microdrive are highly compatible, and almost
>> all of the info I've seen on the CFFA also applies to the Microdrive.
>> In fact, I have yet to see anything that is different aside from the
>> physical appearance and circuit diagram. One small feature the
>> Microdrive has over the CFFA is that it can boot to a specified
>> partition. That's helpful. Otherwise it normally boots to the first 32
>> Meg partition that is seen as slot 7, Drive 1 (with the CF device in
>> slot 7).
>
> And the Microdrive uses a partition table, while the CFFA is "hard
> partitioned" in one of several switch-selected schemes.
>
>> These flash card devices are the single biggest hardware advance in
>> the past decade (or two). And the emulators are the biggest software
>> advance, although these don't run on the Apple II.
>
> Agree!
>
> -michael
>
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You sold me, I'm ordering the card.
I might need some help getting it running though.
I found somebody else with a Profile hard drive - just the drive.  No 
casing.
That pretty much berefts the point.  So I said thanks but no thanks.