Re: Poll: Who works for the Semiconductor industry?

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On Oct 4, 2:30 am, "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:
> Steven Lichter wrote:
> > Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>
> >> Wolle wrote:
>
> >>> I read on one of the Apple II history sides that Cray-Computers have
> >>> used Apple II to design their machines.
> >>> Any information about this? Is there any Layout (CAD) Software
> >>> available? (Would be a very big surprise to me as the amount of design
> >>> data should bust even a full blown IIgs)
>
> >> That was from Seymour Cray himself!  Upon hearing that Apple was
> >> buying a Cray to help design their machines, he said, "Funny, I am
> >> using an Apple to simulate the CRAY-3."
>
> >> I suspect that he was talking about the high-level design, involving
> >> the balance of various "speeds and feeds" and not EDA tools.  ;-)
>
> >> -michael
>
> >> NadaPong: Network game demo for Apple II computers!
> >> Home page:  http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/
>
> >> "The wastebasket is our most important design
> >> tool--and it's seriously underused."
>
> > We used Apple II's during the turn up and testing of digital electronic
> > telephone switches, nothing surprised me.
>
> At HP Labs we used (clone!  ;-) Apple II+'s for hardware bringup
> and debug--they made great pattern generators if speed was not an
> issue.
>
> I believe that some were also used in some manufacturing locations--
> I have a ][+ clone in an HP instrument case!  ;-)
>

That sounds nice, do you have a picture of it?

Thinking about Apple II for simulation or layout work was a
stretch :-)
But the idea of having spice running got me somehow.
I checked the web for early spice implementations but could not find
any usefull source code.
I had a simple spice running on my HP48sx, maybe I should dig for the
source and try to port it to the Apple.


Wolfgang