Re: Last Version of TML Pascal II (Complete Pascal II)

[Polymorph <polymorph69@hotmail.com>]

On Aug 9, 10:44 am, PZ <skierp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 6:13 am, Polymorph <mike.a.steph...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > PZ wrote:
> > > Ok, here is what I got:
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> > > TML Pascal v1.50 (Disk does not say "II") (c)1987,1988
> > > TML Pascal II System Disk (c)1989
> > > TML Pascal II Compiler Disk (c)1989
> > > TML Pascal II v1.1 Upgrade Disk (c)1989
> > > TML Source Code Library (c)1987
> > > TML Pascal v1.0 Manual (136 pages) (c)1987
> > > TML Source Code Library Manual (33 pages) (c)1987
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> > > It appears that there is a different manual being referred to for TML
> > > Pascal v1.1. (I have a 2 page "TML Pascal II v1.1 Installation Notes"
> > > that do not correspond to the TML Pascal v1.0 manual that I have.  So
> > > there could very likely could be 3 manuals which exist.  Since your
> > > French manual doesn't correspond to your copy of TML Pascal II v1.1.
> > > And so the plot thickens.
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> > > - Paul
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> > > Oh, and I've got TML Basic and its Manual, but I hear that its
> > > somewhat buggy and wasn't upgraded to the extent that Pascal was.
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> > > On Jul 24, 9:57 pm, Polymorph <polymorp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Jul 25, 12:03 pm, PZ <skierp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > >>> Give me 10 days and I'll see what I can do.
> > >> Great. It would be good to track this down before it vanishes for
> > >> good.
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> > >>> - Paul
> > >>> Btw, nice work on the manual!
> > >> Thanks. I plan on doing another revision to clean up some of the
> > >> "rough" English used in the 1st revision. But its not a high priority
> > >> at this stage. After doing that translation and also the translation
> > >> of Deckards FASTDSK software, I'm a bit over doing any more right
> > >> now...  :-)
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> > >> cheers,
> > >> -p
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> > Paul,
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> > Thanks heaps for your efforts finding those. Are they part of your
> > personal collection?
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> > Would you mind making disk images? As I said in an earlier post, I am
> > assuming that this is abandonware as the IIgs Fairway site has a TML
> > Pascal II image posted (this is the version I've been mucking around
> > with). It would be interesting to compare your version(s) against the
> > version I have.
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> > The manual would be nice too, but I know how painful scanning largish
> > documents can be....not only that, it would make my translation effort
> > feel somewhat circumvented.  ;-)
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> > It would seem that Complete Pascal 2.0 is a very rare commodity indeed!
> > And worst of all, from what I've read, it was the best version of this
> > development environment released (included many bugfixes and
> > improvements). The search continues...
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> > cheers,
> > -p
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> Your efforts were not in vain.  It sounds like my manual is 2
> revisions older than yours.  Send me your contact info in email so I
> can get these to you.  And yes, Complete Pascal 2.0 sounds like a real
> treasure, that needs to be found.
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> - Paul
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Paul,

Please send the images to mike.a.stephens AT gmail DOT com. Thanks in
advance for doing that.  :-)

If no one has any objections, I will create links on my web site for
these images to be downloadable. Or at least the ones which are later
(if indeed they are later) releases.

I just noticed from reading Q1 of the A2 Programming FAQ - "What
programming languages are available for the Apple II?" and following
the link to Larry Virden's "Apple II Programmer's Catalog of Languages
and Toolkits"; he says in his list for Complete Pascal 2.0 (direct
quote follows):

	I recently did receive info from a customer who uses the
	2.0 version of this and loves it.  Complete Pascal 2.0 is
	the upgrade to TML Pascal II 1.5.  It has several resource
	editors to make GUI programming bearable on the IIgs.  It
	is somewhat compatible with GNO/ME.

So, it would seem that Larry may know of another "lead" to finding
this illusive software. Does anyone know if Larry continues to have
any involvment in the A2 scene any longer? Have contact details for
him? He may remember the user who was happy with Complete Pascal 2.0,
and if so it might be possible to contact them?? Its a long shot I
know, but I'm all out of leads right now...

cheers,
-p