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Re: appletalk on the apple IIe or IIgs ---> appletalk on a "modern" mac



Simon D. Williams wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Gregory Weston wrote:

In article <1169040186.757759.271300@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
 "1capybara@gmail.com" <1capybara@gmail.com> wrote:

I noticed Mac OS-X supports appletalk and i have the appletalk ports
(the size and shape of PS2 ports but with a couple extra pins) on my my
aplle IIgs. some apple IIe  alos have appletalk.

So: how do i connect the two?

Powermac g4 and Powerbook G4 each have:  ethernet ports, dial-up modem
ports, usb and firewire ports
the powermac also has a speaker out and mic in port.
Somewhere along the line, AppleTalk (as a joined hardware and protocol spec) got broken up into two things. In modern documentation, AppleTalk refers to a communication protocol (which Apple still supports) and LocalTalk refers to connection hardware (which Apple does not). I think you're going to need some sort of bridging solution to get it working. Asante has/had such a product.

A cheaper, if more cumbersome, solution is to use an older Mac as the
bridge. Any Mac with ethernet & serial ports should work. You can use a
printer cable to connect the IIgs to the old Mac if you don't have
Localtalk adaptors and install Localtalk Bridge on it.
Your G4s will have to be booted into 0S9, as I don't believe you can
connect to an OSX server (though it will show up in the chooser).
-s
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I believe I have the ultimate Rube Goldberg setup. To connect my IIgs to my Linux server, I have an SE/30 running A/UX and AppleShare Pro 3 for the LocalTalk network. The SE/30 is cabled through ethernet to my G4 Cube running OS X. Since these the machines are too far away from a cabling setup, the Cube uses its Airport card to share its network connection from the server to the SE/30. The SE/30 then uses NFS to mount my home directory on the server, which is then re-shared through AppleShare to the IIgs. And it works. It takes awhile to get everything booted though. And uses enough electricity for a medium sized IT department. However, I feel I have made a physical connection between Apples first products to their most recent, so its worth it :-) Oh, my IIgs is the IIe upgrade version with a Monitor III and Disk IIs for that genuine retro feel. Anybody top that?

Dave...