Re: Apple's new line of commercials..

["Nama" <lord_philip@mac.com>]

>How about merely the fact that up until the early 90's, Macintoshes were
>mouse driven GUI systems and PC's were primarily CLI machines with text
>screens.
> Yes, granted they were personal computers and used such things, but
> claiming they were fundamentally the same is like saying an Apple II Plus
> and a Pentium 4 system are the same because they both have displays,
> RAM, microprocessors and keyboards.

You are missing the point. Firstly we are not comparing vintage 8bit
tech to modern tech. Nor were we comparing GUI vs non GUI. We were
comparing rival GUI OS's, and from that point of view, the architecture
isn't very important. Nor is the fact that it has this kind of plug or
that kind of controller. Most users just don't care. To make an
analogy, cars often have different types of engines (rotary, deisel,
conventional, hybrid), and some use metric bolts and other use imperial
(how antiquated is that) but basically they perform exactly the same
tasks of getting the occupants from A to B.

>So Apple is selling a state of mind more so than an actual product?
>Macintoshes have become more of a fashion statement these days,
>people buying them like they would a pair of designer jeans or an
>overpriced sports car. Or decorative art, which isn't so far off the mark. :)

Look around. Lots of companies do brand advertising. However all the
jean ads and sports car ads I've seen have never been brand adverts,
they are selling product's pure and simple, you always see the jeans,
you always see the sports car.

> Lack of choice is a good thing? And that is putting a lot of blind faith
> and belief that the one single product (versus a dozen or so for the PC)
> will always work the way you want it, flawless in design/features and
> automatically "the best". In any case, this may soon be moot as
> publishers just release Windows versions of software for Mac users.

When did I ever say 'one single product'? Mac owners have choices too
you know, unless you are talking about games ;-)

>  There are freeware anti-viral protection packages out there

Good point...I wonder which one is the best?

>  In any case, saying you wouldn't use XP even if someone paid you is
> just reenforcing old stereotypes about previous versions of Windows (3.1,
> 95, 98 or ME). If you lump them all together and think of them as one,
> that's just wearing a blinder.

Errr...I never mentioned 3.1, 95, 98 or ME. My machine runs XP as I
stated previously. Please don't put words into my mouth. It's not fair.
Anyway, I'm done with this pointless conversation. Probably best to
start a new topic if you want to talk about the lifespan of Apple IIGS,
and let this topic die the death it deserves. 

Phil