Re: Mark's website www.appleiiguy.net

["Sean Fahey" <a2fan@hotmail.com>]

"dave" <dave@icom.net> wrote in message
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> No more "tedious" than any other platforms.  IMO MacOS X is the most
> tedious due to its lack of functionality.

> Typical "Pro-Apple" propaganda.
>
> Windows and Unix aren't "crap".  You obviously know nothing about
> evaluating and optimisng such platforms for effective use.
>
> I'm speaking from a Network Administrator's perspective.  I'm sick and
> tired of people spouting misinformation about Windows and Unix
> systems.  Both OS platforms are portable, scalable and fault-tolerant
> when properly deployed and maintained.  Mac systems on the other hand,
> whilst still acceptable, lack some serious core functionality and
> application support issues.


Ok, some points...



1.) When I said "tedious", I meant that I personally was bored with
supporting Windows and UNIX at my job - I deal with the same routine BS
everyday. Users, typical system glitches, et al. There are defects in
Windows that have been around for years that MS either doesn't care about or
just hasn't gotten to resolving satisfactorily. I have to help my users work
around them every day. If Windows were perfect, then sites/books like
http://www.annoyances.org/ wouldn't exist.



2.) I NEVER said that UNIX or Windows was crap. The crap I referred to was
"my job". When I go home, I don't want to sit in front of a PC because it's
too much like work. I like using the Mac because it's much more consumer
oriented, especially the iApps. It's nice to get away from the crap I
consider work.



3.) What's wrong with being pro-Mac? It's a nice computer, with a nice
operating system that has solid BSD/UNIX core functionality. ANYONE who
doesn't recognize that fact is way behind the times, stuck in the OS 9 days.
Sure, Apple tries to insulate the average user from the terminal and CLI
because the vast number of users don't want to deal with it. However, the
nuts and bolts of OS X are there waiting for any serious geek to play with.
You don't appear to be aware of that and I encourage you to try it - you'll
be surprised.



3a.) Minor nit - you should reacquaint yourself with the meaning and context
of "portability" before you mention it in the same sentence as Windows. UNIX
on the other hand, is appropriate. I'm sure that was just an oversight on
your part.



4.) I'm coming up on 20 years in the biz - I could wallpaper my bedroom with
the certs and creds I have (as if they mean anything) but I seriously doubt
you're qualified to comment on what I know or don't know about "evaluating
and optimizing such platforms for effective use". Get to know me first.



5.) What core functionality is OS X missing (compared to Windows or UNIX)?
ActiveX? Please... tell me what it's missing because you weren't specific. I
think if you objectively research the question, you'll realize it's not a
valid argument anymore. Macs aren't limited like they were back in the OS 9
days - you want to get your hands dirty, the terminal is right there.



6.) Why are you sick and tired of defending UNIX and Windows? I'll tell you
why - it's because when people do bash MS or <insert Unix-flavor here>, it's
because there is a grain of truth there. All operating systems have their
flaws, exploits and UI issues. I didn't offer OS X up as a panacea, but for
me, it works reliably and consistently offers more bang for the buck for me.



7.) What do you care if or why anyone gets bored with 8 bit stuff? It
doesn't bore me or apparently a lot of other people in this group... you
would be in the minority, and frankly, why are you here?