Re: 65020 CPU? Look this...

["Charlie" <charlied at NOSPAM bboard dot com>]

"Michael Black" <et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:d04s1e$1s1$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>
> "Sean Fahey" (a2fan@hotmail.com) writes:
> > Bah! All you whipper-snappers with your ][+, //e, //c and GS boxes! Why
back
> > in the day, you weren't a real Apple II user unless you were using,
well...
> > a real Apple II with 16K which is all the RAM a real programmer needs.
> > Integer BASIC and assembly are all you need, phooey on Applesoft (who
needs
> > FP!). And while macho power users are plenty happy with turbo cassette
> > drives, I admit my 13 sector floppy is a wonder. Them new fangled 16
sector
> > controllers just encourage programmers to write sloppier code!
> >
> What a bloated system you had.  Some of us couldn't afford Apple IIs
> when they were new, and had to make do.  My first computer, that I got in
> 1979, was a KIM-1 with 1K of memory, a cassette interface, and a
calculator
> like readout and keypad.  And no BASIC interpreter.
>
> Even my second system, that I got in 1981, had a mere 8K of memory, and
> still no disk interface (not unless I wanted to start spending lots more
> money).  That was an OSI Superboard II.
>
>   Michael
>

Ok, in the anti-bloat wars, your system beats the Apple II, but my first
computer wasn't an Apple II.  In the fifties (yes fifties) I had a Geniac
(wish I still had it).  If you don't know what a Geniac is go to

http://www.blinkenlights.com/pc.shtml

and scroll down to the next to the last one.  Now there was a real machine.
<grin>  No BASIC interpreter (BASIC hadn't been invented yet), no keyboard
or keypad (it had rotary switches), no readout (just lights), no cassette
interface (were there even cassettes in the fifties?) and oh yeah, no
memory.  If my memory serves me correctly it was a 4-bit machine.

Charlie