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Re: I push a button and it slows down



Sean Fahey wrote:
"Matthew S. Carpenter" <superpsycho@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I recently got a buggie power supply from Stephen Buggie.. it seems to
have stopped my annoying fatal System Error 0911 errors..

But now I've run into another problem.

I received a disk with a game called Bouncin'Inferno by FTA.  I boot up
to my hard drive and run the game off floppy.  When I load it does its
little intro and I click the mouse and start.... and the game seems to
play ok with mouse.... but if at any time during the intro screen or
game play should I click a button on the keyboard, speed drops down to
something soooo unnbelllleviablly slowwwwwww.


I think your ADB port, cable or the KB itself is bad. What ROM version GS
are you using? Since your other glitch may be KB related, both problems
could point to a common denominator. From the FAQs...

005- I've been getting Fatal System Error 0911 and when I do the
     internal diagnostic it gives a system bad : 09010001.
     Is there a fix?

     Fatal System Error 0911 and Self-Diagnostic Test 09010001 mean the same
thing: You are, very likely, experiencing one of the following malfunctions:


o- Temperature-sensitive ADB IC

     This problem was first identified in a 1988 article in issue #58 of
Computist. If your IIgs is a true ROM-01 (produced starting in mid-late
1987)
or a ROM 3, you are very unlikely to have an ADB IC with this defect.

     Otherwise ... A guess would be that you are running a ROM-00 machine
which
has been upgraded to ROM-01. If this is the first time you've noticed the
'0911
problem, it is likely that this is the first summer you've owned and used
this
particular machine.

     Many early GS's come with an ADB IC which malfunctions over a narrow
range
of relatively low temperatures. Rooms are normally cooler during summer; so,
this is when the error pops up most frequently. Some users first notice a
plague of '0911 crashes after adding a System Saver-GS (which increases
cooling).

Note: Some reports have attributed '0911 crashes to overheating of one of
the
two main ADB IC's. So far, it looks like these reports are cases of
misinterpreting the actual failure syndrome-- i.e. warming up a cool IC
enough
to get into its failure region.

    '0911 bombs can occur 'any time' but they usually happen at startup and
when doing OpenApple-CTRL-ESC accesses to the Desk Accessories (CDA's,
Control
Panel, ...) menu. As the machine warms up, '0911 crashes tend to become less
likely.

     The bad news is that there is no 100% fix except to replace the temp
sensitive ADB IC-- hard to do since it is soldered to the motherboard and,
in
any case, known-good replacements are difficult to find.

     As to _which_ ADB IC-- there are two, the ADB Controller and the ADB
GLU-
- our notes say the ADB Controller; but, we could have easily misidentified
the
function back then and the ADB GLU IC 'clicks' better with memories of the
fix.
(The ADB GLU IC is a square IC near the right front of the motherboard.)

Note: The easiest way to identify the temp sensitive IC is to apply the fix
(below) and see if it works. If it does, fine. If not, it is easy to move
the
fix to the other IC. For now, my suggestion is to try the ADB GLU IC first.

     Since the problem is coolness, a decent cure is to tape a small 12V
bulb
(e.g. a 20-30 ma. panel light bulb) to the top of the ADB IC. Use duct tape
and
try to enclose the bulb and IC in a kind of mini-oven. Run the leads from
the
bulb to the +12V Fan power pins near the back left area of the motherboard.

     The idea is to quickly warm up the IC. I used a scheme like this on our
early GS and 0911 bombs dropped from 4-5 per day to 2-3 per week. If you can
safely power the bulb via an external power module (e.g. a calculator or
radio
'AC adapter') so that the bulb can be ON at least a few minutes before
powering
up the computer, 0911 bombs might disappear entirely.


o- Defective keyboard, loose connector on KB, and/or a bad KB cable

     Some users report that swapping in another keyboard cured their '0911
crashes. In the same vein, a loose connector socket in the KB or a bad KB
cable
would be worth checking for.


o- System noise and/or lowered motherboard voltages

     If '0911 crashes suddenly appear after an accelerator or other power-
sucking board is added, it is fairly likely that the added load has
increased
system noise and, possibly, also lowered motherboard voltages.

     One possibility is that your power supply needs to have heavier leads
swapped in. Also, you may need to jumper some of the power traces feeding
Slots
on the motherboard. For more discussion about this see Q&A 005-007 in
Csa2POWER.txt.

     A defective power supply on the way to failing is another possibility.
A
failing power supply is more likely to be the culprit if '0911 crashes
appeared
'from nowhere'-- i.e. nothing was changed, no new board was added, etc..


o- Poorly socketed Expansion Memory card

     With power turned OFF, try removing and replacing your Expansion Memory
card.




I've had my apple IIgs for three years. The 0911 errors didn't start popping up when I added an accelerator half a year ago. They also went away when replaced the power supply with something more beefy recently.

This computer is a ROM 01, it doesn't have the sockets for //e keyboard or psunit that ROM 00 machines typically had.. I don't really know how to determine when it was made.

Anyway, I used multiple keyboards when I was getting the 0911 errors(I had gone to the FAQ to see about it). I'll go ahead and try a different mobo if I get the time to change it(I have one spare that is supposedly working).. I think first I would like to try finding a copy of the game online somewhere or something to see if it works with a fresh copy on a brand new disk(I susspect the one I got was on a floppy that was 7 years old(it was datestamped 1998). I also have a ROM 03 but I'd rather use a 01 for compatibilties sake.

-Matt