Re: c-plus ][ bubble memory card...japanese..

["brad" <mrbrad(remove)@ll.net>]

"Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote in message
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> brad wrote:
>
> >below is a translated link to a collector in japan who seems to have the
> >same bubble mem card i'm talking about in the prev post on this
> >discussion thread....
> >
> >
> >http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.apple2worl
> d.jp/apple2/COL/MapItems/card/memory/bubblememory/bubblememory.html&prev=/
> search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.apple2world.jp/apple2/COL/MapItems/card/memory/bub
> blememory/bubblememory.html%
> >26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
>
> This is the MPC card, also known as the Helix Labs card, and it is
> not the same card as the one shown in the auction.  The "corner cut"
> is different and the card edge connector has all its "pins".
>
> The MPC/Helix card was made with the Intel bubble memory chip
> and chip set.
>
> >above is a link...a translated page link..not sure if it works or not in
> >translation mode..the direct japanese link is below...of a  collector in
> >japan who seems to have my card i mentioned in prev post..so a bit more
info
> >for anyone interested in this discussion
>
> It works.
>
> >so if the above translated to english link does not work here is the
direct
> >japanese link below...you can use with google translate or bablefish
> >to get the same english translation yourself
> >
> >
> >http://www.apple2world.jp/apple2/COL/MapItems/card/memory/bubblememory/bu
> bblememory.html
> >
> >anyway..this looks like the card i mentioned in prev post..bubble
> >memcard...i have not broken the seals on my unit however..and removed the
> >cover..but my box
> >for this unit does have PC labled on it and his unit is named without the
> >lid as a peripherials corp bubble memory board...his has intel magnetics
> >1982
> >
> >this is prob what i have...as stated in my prev post for a bubble memory
> >card....
>
> If your card is a bubble memory card, then it almost certainly works
> like a disk drive if you plug it in and do a "PR#s" on it.  If it is not
> bootable, then you should be able to boot a DOS disk and then
> CATALOG the bubble drive.
>
> Bubble cards are pretty heavy, because of the iron and magnets
> associated with the bubble chip.
>
> >anyway...still looking for english instructions if available or what do
you
> >think just plug the beast in...the japanese link seems to suggest it has
a
> >chip named bubdos ...perhaps..that is all i need?
>
> That is true for the MPC/Helix card--maybe yours is a clone?...
>
> >anyway...just for those who might be interested here is another link to
the
> >card and the such ..more or less looks like my card from what i can tell
>
> Again, the cards do not look identical either in shape or pinout.  That
does
> not rule out that one is an electronic clone of the other, or that they
are
> different designs, but it does raise doubts.
>
> >the auction site with the card i have and the box is again at
> >
> >
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5155810138&ssPage
> Name=STRK:MEWN:IT
>
> Try it out in a system and see if you can CATALOG it--if it doesn't work,
no
> harm has been done, and if something exotic on the card has failed, you
> will probably have to consider it a writeoff anyway, since those chips are
> now made of unobtanium.  ;-)
>
> -michael
>
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not sure about the card i have one thing for sure though..i've never seen a
card with 1/16 inch or so sheet metal around it..it has the same thickness
as the top of a ide internal hardrive looks like same thickness of the cast
iron metal...

still tempted to mess with the labels to open it (also sealed like a hd)

i did not know they made a civil war iron clad version of an apple // card

anyway ..i'll see what other info floats in...and muck with it like you
suggested

brad
former sysop lost-gonzo.com

also on the card it says it is a plus & plus card..in case that is any help

anyway....life's little mysteries

although i did see some bubble memory chips for sale that fit the japanese
guys card....when i was looking around at this stuff...so that also was odd

brad
former sysop lost-gonzo.com