Re: ProDOS CDs

[Sean McNamara <sean@macassist.com.au>]

In article <3qzSc.3681$jZ5.358@clgrps13>,
 Wayne Stewart <waynes@telus.dotnet> wrote:

> Sean McNamara wrote:
> 
> > Now, I know I can use HFS CDs with the HFS FST, but I was wondering 
> > about ProDOS CDs - it seems appropriate to try and use native formats, 
> > and I'd like to play around with it.
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > I have a PowerBook G4 running OS X 10.3.5 with a SuperDrive, I have an 
> > eMac 800MHz that can do 10.3.5 or 9.2.2 with a Combo drive, and I have 
> > an LC575 running 7.6.1 which I can probably rustle up an external CD-R 
> > drive with Toast for.
> > 
> > Any pointers on methods to use the above, or programs I can download 
> > which will do the job for me?
> 
> Since your IIgs has SCSI and the eMac and Powerbook don't you're
> going to have to use the 575.
> 
> Here's how I've burned ProDOS CDs with a Mac.
> 
> 1) I set up a hard drive with the data and partitions I wanted.
> 
> 2) I connected the hard drive to the Mac and leaving the hard drive
> off, I booted the Mac. After the Mac booted I turned the hard drive on.
> 
> 3) I used Toast to do a Device Copy.
> 
> The result is a CD that's basically a copy of the hard drive. If
> you're making a backup of your main IIgs hard drive it'd be a good
> idea to temporarily rename the partitions since GSOS won't like
> mounting a CD with the same partition names as your hard drive.
> 
> The reason I leave the hard drive off until after the Mac has booted
> is so that none of the partitions will mount on the Mac. Some of my
> hard drives will mount and then MacOS likes to add some files that
> are hidden to it but not to the Apple II.

Just a report back - thanks Wayne for giving me the tips to make a 
successful ProDOS CD. I had to jump through a few hoops, but here's what 
worked...

1. Installed Toast 3.5.5 onto 575 - unfortunately, it didn't recognise 
my CD burner, but it was still essential to the end result. Toast Deluxe 
4.1 crashes, so I'll troubleshoot that later to try and reduce the 
number of steps and transfer times below.

2. Connected SCSI drive from IIgs onto Mac and started up - HD didn't 
mount anyway, so could leave it on.

3. Ran Toast and chose Device copy, but, with no working CD-RW drive, 
chose to save as a disk image on the desktop. Went through pretty 
quickly.

4. gzipped the resulting disk image (reduced size from 41 to 17MB) then 
transferred via AppleTalk to my PowerBook. Have to troubleshoot the 
575's ethernet card to make this faster than 15 minutes :)

5. ungzipped the .iso file and used Disk Utility in OS X to burn to disk.

6. Got CD-ROM drive and HD working on IIgs after much hassle with IDs 
and terminators. Renamed HD to avoid conflict.

7. Inserted CD - voile! It turned up on the GS/OS desktop. Hooray!

Thanks Wayne - if I can get Toast 4.1 working I might be able to follow 
your instructions more closely :)

Regards

Sean

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