Re: Ethernet & Internet on Apple 2

["brad" <mrbrad@(remove)ll.net>]

on a side note..what is fun that i used to do when i had an internet capable
bbs setup (worldgroup) and synchronet (www.synchro.net  freeware tcp/ip pkg
etc bbs) was to have serial connections to my fv/metal 4.0xev apple // bbs
on one gs and tpro 4.2f rpg software on my 2nd gs...


in other words people would connect to my msdos based bbs setup and then
serially connect to the old apple // bbs and therefore could "play" its 1982
again on an apple 2 bbs pkg (ie...first come first serve 1 user at a time
don't ya know)

anyway ...if you run a web site/or something similar it is better then just
using the gs's as door stops or put them in a closet

i really need to start a retro computer club and get all this up again (the
other 4 sysops moved away ..not as much fun just 1 guy doing it..was a lot
more fun with beers and buddies doing it) and of course 1/4 the expense of
running a pretty good sized game site

anyway ..that is pretty much the only apple // internet angle that i ever
came accross.....that and maybe having a pretty large file server under the
pc side with apple // files

anyway on a menu driven ms-dos bbs pkg ..text driven or via a web page menu
link it was pretty seemless looking to who ever used those links to the bbs

anyway....thats what i did (and hopefully will get the beast up again off
some www game server and do it on the side for fun again someday ...

brad
former sysop lost-gonzo.com (still down)

p.s. of course these apple // bbs packages from a dos 3.3 version of
applenet (ie safehouse bbs 1982) and tpro  4.2f RPG bbs pkg (guy t. rice)
and fv/metal 4.0xev (ie...complements from old boycott bbs) are written in
basic and/or in fv/metal bbs softwares METAL text script format...so if you
did have an ethernet apple // bbs card and could program you could prob
figure out a way to use them in conjunction with the above programs with the
proper hooks...but i don't program...but thats my guess..assuming it was
worth doing

but again ..this was the only way I could do anything with the internet
(again don't program at all) i used hardware and other ms dos bbs pkgs or
programs to kludge them up

brad



"sca" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <20040626210035.12238.00000770@mb-m01.aol.com>,
> mjmahon@aol.com says...
> > sca no@spam.com asked:
> >
> > >Ok, guys, I'm returning to the Apple 2 world after abandoning it 10
> > >years ago.  I was a true believer even while Apple was cutting the legs
> > >out from under us.  I finally gave in, bought a Mac and never looked
> > >back.  I soon got rid of the Mac and bought my first PC and I've been
PC
> > >ever since.
> > >
> > >A few years ago I bought an Imac, but the fire didn't catch.  That
Bondi
> > >Blue Imac is sitting in a closet downstairs.  I'm typing this on a 2.6
> > >ghz P4 with 1 gig of RAM, 200 gig of hard disks blah blah blah
> > >
> > >But I miss my apple 2!
> >
> > Welcome!
> >
> > >I'm buying up a lot of apple 2 stuff for next to nothing and going to
be
> > >back with a vengeance, but I've been gone so long that I'm behind the
> > >curve on how the apple 2 has been faring in network and internet hookup
> > >potentials.
> > >
> > >Can you guys give me a short course on what is currently (or soon to
be)
> > >available for the IIgs and how to begin the process of implementing the
> > >hard/software to make it work on ethernet and the internet?  Can I use
> > >wireless yet?  Those types of questions.
> >
> > Your question is an interesting one.
> >
> > There is at least one Ethernet card available for the Apple II, but
> > there is, as yet, no software for anything but the IIgs.  There is
> > the possibility of a software release that would support simple
> > TCP/IP interconnection, but at speeds typical of an Apple II--
> > that is, slow.
> >
> > Further, no Apple II platform is up to the task of surfing today's
> > graphics-rich web--by about a factor of 500 in speed and space.
> >
> > Your question sounds to me like:  "I used to have a Model T
> > that I loved to drive and tinker with, but I have been driving an
> > SUV for many years.  Now I'd like to know what's available
> > for Model T's in the way of air conditioning, stereo surround-
> > sound, turbochargers, and trailer hitches."
> >
> > See what I mean?
> >
> > I have no interest in hooking an Apple II to the Internet, since
> > I have blazingly fast machines for doing that, and can easily
> > transfer any useful files to the Apple II using a removeable
> > disk (ranging from a floppy to a Zip Disk).  I also have little
> > interest in hooking a snowplow to my sedan.  ;-)
>
> You may have no interest in hooking to the net, but I want to hook to
> the net, not for surfing but for downloading all the software that is on
> the net.  Plus I want relatively easy access on an ethernet network, if
> I can get it, to allow me to move files easily.
>
> I'm not asking for air conditioning on my Model-T.  But howsabout a
> motorized windshield wiper so I can drive in the rain?
>
> What is this ethernet card with software for the IIgs?
>
>