Re: Apple IIe TCP-IP w/ LANceGS Card

["Charlie" <charlied@NOSPAMbboard.com>]

"copper wire" <NoEmail@NoSpam.NoNet> wrote in message
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> In article <brnu7r024k5@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Charlie"
> <charlied@NOSPAMbboard.com> wrote:
> > Please excuse my ignorance.  I know next to nothing about Ethernet.
> > I do wonder why it is necessary to have an Ethernet card on an Apple IIe
for
> > email, newsgroups, FTP, etc.  I don't need one on a PC to do these things.
> > Is it a matter of "not enough memory" or "not fast enough"?
> > What is it that I'm missing?
>
>
> One might desire an Ethernet card in an Apple IIgs or in an enhanced Apple
> IIe in order to hook up to high speed type internet connections...such as
> a cable modem or xDSL, as hookup to those require at minimum a 10-base-T
> Ethernet interface.
>
> For example, if an Apple IIgs had an Ethernet card installed, one could
> then hook up the Ethernet card to a cable modem via a 10-base-T Etheret
> cable, and in turn, the cable modem would be hooked up to the cable
> company's head end via the coaxial cable running from one's cable modem to
> the cable wall outlet jack in your residence (similar but not exactly same
> situation for xDSL hookup).

OK, that makes sense.  I hadn't thought of hooking up a //e directly to high
speed cable internet.

>
> One would still need a TCP/IP stack on the computer in question, and in
> addition, the client software on the computer in question to access the
> various features of the Internet (ie. web broswer client, email client,
> NNTP newsreading client, FTP client, Telnet client, etc.).

Wouldn't you need a TCP/IP stack (whatever that is) and additional client
software even if you weren't using an Ethernet card?  For instance if you were
using a dial-up modem.

This is really the reason I asked the original questions.  I have seen several
people post over the last few years about the lack of an Ethernet card and/or
client software for accessing the internet.  I wondered why the card was
necessary.  If I read your post correctly you are saying that it is possible to
write the client software, etc. on the //e and then go online with just a
dial-up connection.

>
> Another reason to have an Ethernet card in an Apple II would be to hook it
> up to your local area network (whether it be PC's, Mac's, UNIX boxen,
> etc.) for presumably easier file transfer/information sharing). It would
> be much faster than connection to the LAN via the LocalTalk port(s) built
> into the IIgs....and the IIe doesn't have any networking options built
> into it at all.

Well, yes, being able to connect to a standard type of network for file
transfer, etc. is certainly a reason for wanting an Ethernet card.  My
questions were mainly concerned with internet use.

Charlie