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Re: Problem with Apple IIc null modem



"Your name" <underwood.jay@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns94369BC63C27624@63.240.76.16...
> Hi,
>
> I am having a problem getting a null modem to work between my Apple IIc
> and my laptop PC.  I hope someone can help me solve this problem.
>
> I want to use the null modem to run ADT, but I keep getting I/O errors in
> ADT.  I created my null modem cable according to the following pinout:
>
> DIN-5, male       DB9, female
> (Apple)
>
> 4 (2) TXD     --> 2 RXD
> 5 (4) RXD     <-- 3 TXD
> 2 (3) GND     --- 5 GND
> 1 (1) DTR     --> 6 DSR --, pins 6 and 1 connected by jumper
>                   1 DCD --'
> 3 (5) DSR/DCD <-- 4 DTR
>
> The pin numbering that I used for the DIN-5 connector, as viewed by
> looking at the pins on the front, are:
>
> Apple numbering      Standard numbering
>
> 1     5                  1     3
>  2   4                    4   5
>    3                        2
>
> The pin numbering that I used for the DB9 end of the null modem cable, as
> viewed by looking  at the front of the female connector, are:
>
> --------------
> \ 5 4 3 2 1 /
>  \ 9 8 7 6 /
>    -------
>
> This is what happens when I install the null modem cable, and I boot up
> Windows 3.11 (on the PC) and ProDOS (on the Apple IIc).
>
> If I type IN#2 on the apple, I can enter text in a terminal emulator and
> the text will display perfectly on the Apple IIc monitor.
>
> However, if I type PR#2 (print to the serial port) when I type something
> on the Apple, I get gibberish on the teminal emulator (ion the PC sode).
> The gibberish looks like this:
>
> ����ç??������� �����?�Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?�
> �Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?Ý?�ì»?�������� �����?��ì»?�������� �����?��ì»?��
> ������ �����?��ì»?�������� �����?��ì»?�������� �����?���ê??�
> ������ �����?������������������������������������������������������������
> ��������������������������������������ô??¿ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ �����?�Ý?Ý?Ý?�����ê??�
> ������ �����?�����������������è??������ �����?���������������������������

> �����������������������������^�������������������������������������������
> ������ê??������� �����?��
>
> The serial port settings on both sides are the same, and I'm running at
> 300 baud.
>
> Does anybody know what I am doing wrong, ar have a suggestion that will
> help me.  It appears that I can send text from the PC to the Apple IIc,
> but CANNOT send text from the Apple IIc to the PC.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks,
> Jay

Here is what I found in the FAQs. I have my wiring
on my computer somewhere and will post it when I find
it again. I'm going to need it too. I make these for others.

    "Shorting" here just means the pins are connected by a jumper. (For
example, on the 9-pin connector you would jumper pins 1 and 6. The line
coming from pin 1 of the 5-pin DIN connector would connect to either of the
jumpered pins.)

     Let's list the French file://c NULL modem cable for ADT showing all
signal
names and signal directions. (The DIN-5 connector shown is the plug on the
cable.)  I'll put traditional Apple pin numbers in parenthensis ...

  DIN-5M            Dsub9   or    Dsub25
 (Apple)            9 pins        25 pins

 4 (2) TXD     -->  2 RXD         3 RXD
 5 (4) RXD     <--  3 TXD         2 TXD
 2 (3) GND     ---  5 GND         7 GND
 1 (1) DTR     -->  6 DSR --,*    6 DSR --,*
                               1 DCD --'     8 DCD --'
 3 (5) DSR/DCD <--  4 DTR    20 DTR

* pins connected by a jumper

     Usual Apple numbering for a male cable connector (plug) as viewed
looking at the pins from the front is ...

1       5
 2     4
    3

     Showing only the usual Apple numbering and a Dsub9 connector going to
the PC, the French file://c ADT NULL modem cable pinout would be ...

   Apple           Dsub9
  "DIN-5M"         9 pins

   2  TXD     -->  2 RXD
   4  RXD     <--  3 TXD
   3  GND     ---  5 GND
   1  DTR     -->  6 DSR --,*
                   1 DCD --'
   5  DSR/DCD <--  4 DTR

* pins connected by a jumper

     Whether the Dsub9 connector is male or female depends upon what it
needs
to plug into.

Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprizez };-)
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