Re: Apple IIGS APW Disk Images ?

[Jalapeno <jalapeno1@mac.com>]

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<sv1hb.54529$ko%.21231@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
 "Glenn Jones" <rg.jones@rogers.com> wrote:

> "Bill Garber" <willy4SPAM6pa@comXcast.net> wrote in message
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> > > They still sell it. $50 for orca/c and $50.00 for orca/pascal, which I
> > > believe supercedes apw 2.0
> >
> > On the same page there is OPUS ][ : The Software, which has,
> > for $95, just about everything you need to program the Apple
> > II. I've downloaded a couple of the things that are on it, but the
> > documentation and all the rest on the CD looks to be worth the
> > money. I am getting it as soon as I write anything at all that works
> > using what I have. I didn't see APW on the list of contents, but
> > there is MPW IIgs.
> >
> > Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprizez };-)
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> 
> Bill, I bought tthe Opus a while back.
> 
> FYI, it does include MPW IIgs C compiler but it does not include the MPW
> IIgs Assembler, linker or other tools ..so it (MPW IIgs C)  is essentialy
> useless without the other items.
> 
> You must also download MPW iteself from Apple (free).
> 
> I don't mind paying Eric and Mike for the tools but I wish the apple IIgs
> documentation would be released so we could have electronic copies
> available. Apparently Syndicomm's license from Apple does not permit
> electronic distribution of these docuements.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 

IIRC, MPW Ciigs isn't 32-bit clean and needs an "old world" Mac to 
create a usable executable for the IIGS. I never could create one on my 
iMac, but could from MPW on a Mac SE30. The SE30 also had an older 
version of MPW.

Ciigs is not ANSI C but a bastardized version of K&R C (since it 
predates the ANSI/ISO C standard, it'd have to be ;). Personally, I 
would recommend buying ORCA/C and running it in Bernie 2 the Rescue or 
KEGS. That is what I do. You get much better compiled code from ORCA/C. 
And APW is just an earlier version of the ORCA environment that Apple 
bought from The Byte Works, IIRC, so I wouldn't even bother with APW, 
except for historical purposes.

To the OP who posed the question in the subject: Get a paper route or do 
some baby sitting and buy OPUS ][. Sometimes it really doesn't pay to be 
cheap. If you really, really can't afford the ORCA programming tools 
because you are disabled or something there is a free Modula2 compiler 
for the IIGS that is really quite good and can be found in the usual 
Apple II ftp sites. You'll need a link editor as one is not provided in 
the Modula2 "package" but sometimes linkGS can be found floating around 
the net. The linker in ORCA works too. Modula2 isn't C but that is both 
a good thing and a bad thing ;)