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Re: Those Apple ][ clones...

Supertimer wrote:

Exegete <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:



6. ROM:
    192K -- This includes the only legal Apple compatible
    ROM by 1988 (Apple lost a lawsuit challenging it) and
    Microsoft BASIC (the Applesoft compatible version)
    licensed from Microsoft.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this. In 1987 (and, I think, in 1988) Franklin was still selling their 2000 and 500 series machines, and those were legal ROMS. 


Yes, but Franklins were not truely compatible.
The percentage of 8 bit Apple II software they ran was supposed to be about as high, or higher than the IIgs; no one says the IIgs wasn't truely compatible. 



I suppose you can say that the Laser was so compatible
that it was a "clone" in the IBM clone sense.  Anything
you threw at a Laser save two pieces of software would
run.

Now "clone" in the Apple II world has a different meaning.
It means a copy of the Apple II.  Illegal.  So we don't use
it.

Didn't the later legal Franklins have to boot some kind of
special ProDOS to use to circumvent the copyring issue?
On a Laser, this isn't necessary.  Software actually thinks
it is running on an Apple IIe/IIc.
FranklinDOS was a legal copy of AppleDOS. I've never tried to run ProDOS on my later Franklin's. I have heard that ProDOS had to have a patch (change of one byte, I believe) so it would run on a Franklin, but I really don't know for sure.
Next week I should have my 2000 and 500 series machines up and running, and I'll test several versions of ProDOS to see.
However, looking at Franklin's August 1, 1986 listing of compatible software, I do note a number of ProDOS based programs listed, such as SuperCalc 3a, some of the PFS series, AppleWorks 1.1 and 1.2 




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