Re: Commodore 64 kills APPLE II

[Exegete <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com>]

Yves McDonald wrote:
> They were... C-64 have superior sound & graphic hardware but poor OS 
> software and slow I/O (and horrible joysticks).  The Apple ][s were 
> business machines created from the late 70's. 

Nonsense.

This is a profoundly uninformed statement.

The II was created by Woz to play games.
That was in 1976/77.

It was years before Commodore had computers that had color and graphics 
to rival the II.

about FIVE years before the C-64 appeared. If you couldn't top the II 
five years after it was released....

After Woz designed control circuits for a disk drive, then the II had 
the hardware to be a business computer.

But the company was concerned about the II's ability to compete as a 
business machine, and so they designed the III. And the Lisa. And the 
Mac, then the FatMac, and finally they had a winner with the MacPlus.

They were eventually
> outclassed by Big Blue's PC in the eighties.  

Not really. Certainly not by the first PC. But those three little 
letters did get machines through the doors of the IT departments of 
Forbes 500 companies.

The C-64 was introduced
> much after the first Apple ][.  Applesoft BASIC and DOS 3.3 were far 
> more powerful than Commodore's, again a proof that Apples were 
> business-oriented.  I played games on my Apple thanks to an army of 
> clever 6502 programers who produced high-speed graphics routines and 
> precise timing loops.
>
> Where there any hard disks or successful business apps made for the 
> C-64?  Never heard of.  

In Great Britian the C-64 was a serious business machine.

Roy

Younger friends had C-64's to play games, not to
> type letters, do spreadsheets or manage databases.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yves
>
> Stede Troisi wrote:
>
> > Is it me or does the APPLE II's graphic and sounds stink compared to the
> > lower priced C64? I was playing around with the AppleWin emulator and the
> > graphics and sounds are terrible.
> >
> > Stede



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