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Re: GCR*MFM=FM



Bill Garber wrote:
Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <7c-dnf9g-vXF-fejXTWcrg@comcast.com>, "Joel"
<joelbuckley54.nospam.@hotmail.com> writes:


I'm not so sure that current PC drives/controllers can deal with
SSSD format--maybe someone here knows?


Sorry, but only 360k can read/write single sided disks.

Well, to be a real nit picker, if you have the older IBM SSDD drives....
BTW, IBM never had SSSD 5.25 drives.
The minimum was 160K - SSDD 8 sectors per, as opposed to the 180K SSDD 9 sectors per.
Of course, there was also the 320K disks DSDD 8 sectors....

Roy

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So by limiting yourself to 35 track single-sided FM (4+4), I think you

might

be able to have a disk readable and writeable on both Apple and IBM 5.25
drives.
Just imagine the impact such a program would have had 20 years ago!

3.5 drives-I don't know. I was never really familiar with the workings of
Apples 3.5 drive. Clearly the IBM can't read Apple's 800k. But could the
Apple read a 720k IBM. I don't know. I thought the increase in data

density

on Apple's 3.5 drive was due to putting more blocks per track on the

outer

blocks, rather than the encoding format. But I seem to remember that the

IWM

was used in the 3.5 drive controller as well, so I'm not really sure.

You are correct about where the extra capacity comes from.  But Apple
3.5" 800KB disks are still GCR, using essentially the same encoding as
the 5.25" disks.

In the "parent" of this thread, Eric Smith suggested that it might be

possible

for an Apple II to read an FM single-density disk by reading each track

two

or more times, and correlating the bit-shifted results to determine the
original
content.  I replied with a proposal that might be able to do it in one

rotation

per track by sampling the controller's shift register three times per

"nibble".

I think that the Apple II could do this with 5.25" disks, but 3.5" disks

would

be too fast for it to work.

There would have to be some heuristics to determine correct nibble sync,
but it should be possible.  Of course, a SSSD (90KB) disk is not the most
practical data interchange medium for either a PC or an Apple II.  ;-)

-michael

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