Re: getting DOS onto a //c+

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pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter) wrote:

>> As far as I am concerned, the best 8-bit software came out after ProDOS.
>> DOS 3.3 5.25" stuff was limited mainly to using the lower 48k of
>> memory.  80 column capability, 128k to 1MB support, all the stuff
>> that made an Apple IIc/IIe/IIc+ much more than simply an Apple II+
>> was not tapped in DOS 3.3 programs.
> 
>:-) ...IMO the best 8-bit softare was available on CP/M-80; whatever
>was available for the Apple II were toys in comparison, no matter if
>it was DOS 3.x, ProDOS or Apple Pascal software.  So the seroius
>stuff I did on my Apple II was done using the Z80 Card (I had a 6 MHz
>Apple-Card with its own 64K of RAM), and Apple DOS and (rarely)
>ProDOS and Apple Pascal was used mostly for relaxation and enjoyment,
>and experimenting with the hardware too.

If you are a programmer I would understand why you say this.

If you wanted to use your computer to do productivity stuff, it is
completely different.  CP/M software died after a certain point
while Apple II software continued.  Take SuperCalc 3a, which
paralleled SuperCalc 3 in the MS-DOS world.  Or the VIP
Professional series which paralleled Lotus 1-2-3.  These were
software that had the same functions as the MS-DOS versions
and could load and save files of the same format sent over
modem.  Or what about WordPerfect for the Apple II.  Much
much better than the CP/M WordStar.  And of course there
was AppleWorks. And Publish-It! which also had an MS-DOS
version.

80-columns and extended memory support.  You could load
up huge files with SuperCalc 3a, AppleWorks, Publish-It!, or
VIP.  CP/M programs did not advance to take advantage of
such extended memory.

Toy?  I think not.  I used Apple II software throughout college
to write papers with the output going to the same printers as
a PC would so the results were polished and indistinguishable
from the output of a PC.  I would never have been able to do
this with a CP/M computer.

I even had a PC Transporter card at one time but stopped
using it because Apple II stuff was just much better than
PC stuff up to and including DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1.  It
was not until Windows 95 that PC software became better
than Apple II software.

I am speaking as a die-hard PC user who has built four
PCs from scratch and loves upgrading them too so I am
NOT biased.  On that note, I can't wait to see what I can
do with AMD's upcoming Sledgehammer processors with
up to 8-way multiprocessing.  Amazing stuff.