Re: Apple II/IIGS C++ compiler

[pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter)]

In article <3BF812AF.94141E36@inetnebr.com>,
Roy Miller  <millers@inetnebr.com> wrote:
 
> Paul Schlyter wrote:
> 
>> Aztec C had two versions which could be run on the Apple II: one
>> native Apple II version, and another version for CP/M which could be
>> ran on Apple II's with a suitable Z80 card.
> 
> However, Paul, if memory serves, Aztec C was not a full implimentation
> of the language. Only Byteworks' Orca C was a full ANSI C, at the time
> that it was created.
 
Indeed very true.  However, since Aztec C was released before ANSI C
standardisation even had begun, don't you think it's a bit too much to
require Aztec C to comply to a standard that didn't even exist then?
 
>> And then you can run AT&T's Cfront, which converts C++ to C.  Yep,
>> that's the way early C++ compilers worked: they compiled C++ into
>> (quite unreadable, but compliable) C, and then you ran that C code
>> through your regular C compiler.
> 
> And does Cfront run on the II?
 
Most certainly not -- the resouces on the II is just too small:
64K RAM, 256 bytes stack --- you get the idea.
 
BTW since Cfront too predated ANSI C, it most certainly won't
require an ANSI C compiler to run.

And since Cfront predated both ANSI C and ANSI C++, quite naturally
Cfront doesn't implement all of ANSI C++ ...  <g>
 
> For that route, seems to me that a cross-complier would make more
> sense, if one really wanted to run a C++, and create programs for the II.
 
A cross compiler was the assumption here, as I understood it.
 
> Still, inspiteof your helpful suggestions, I think the answer to his
> question is still "No, there are no C++s that run on any Apple II." And
> only one ANSI C compliant C (by an earlier ANSI standard.)
 
The answer is also: "Yes, one can write Apple II software in C++ for
the Apple II" ... if one uses the Apple II as only the target system.
That's a pretty tedious route though and I wouldn't want to follow it.
Also: the Apple II is such a small and simple system that C++ isn't
really needed for Apple II software.
 
 
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